Naked Neck/Turken Thread

[Vamvakas]

Way cool! Did it mention NN in general or the several NN breeds developed in France(apparently free range NN broilers are popular there?)

I've seen battery egg production farms using white NN hens in Greece and probably most of Europe do the same thing. NN's are nothing new in Europe there're really popular there.

 

[flower]

I've seen battery egg production farms using white NN hens in Greece and probably most of Europe do the same thing. NN's are nothing new in Europe there're really popular there.

Which helps promote my belief that NN are good dual purpose chickens. Besides the practical side, they are fun !

 

[Kev]

I've seen battery egg production farms using white NN hens in Greece and probably most of Europe do the same thing. NN's are nothing new in Europe there're really popular there.

Smart of them. Do you know if the reason for NN in battery birds was to help with heat tolerance or..? I've read some abstracts in journals for introducing naked neck into broilers to help them handle heat better, especially in hot climate areas. Some findings indicated it did help in broilers reared in hot conditions- better body weights.

I'm also curious for what reasons are NN popular in Europe?

Too bad there's such a prejudice against NN over here. More than a few times I failed to convince a local to go with NN for dual purpose purposes(summers extremely hot and long here) only because they could not get beyond their necks being visible. Annoying.

p.s. naked necks are also very common in Brazil. Also some isolated areas in India they are highly regarded by locals.

 

[Kev]

Link to NN and nn broiler comparison study:

http://ps.fass.org/content/76/7/930.full.pdf

From abstract part-all birds were raised the same way, 300 NN, 300 non-NN in each group in a temperate area in spring time and summer and a hot climate area for the summer:

Summer, hot area: NN had higher breast weight, grew faster in both sexes than non-NN. The difference increased the hotter it got(NN doing increasingly better than non NN).

Moderate, not so hot: only the male NN showed better 'results' than non-NN.

Spring time- average temps being 66F- results were roughly the same overall. (NN ate a little more, however they ate a lot less in hot climate)

Interestingly.. they found in ALL cases, NN had higher breast weight than non-NN irregardless of climate. Also the NN did actually have lower body temps than non-NN so NN helping them cool is not mere conjecture...

Not surprisingly, from the study they recommend NN be introduced into broiler stock when climate will be hot.

 

[Miss Lydia]

Wish I could be more help, but (fortunately?) I haven't had to deal with roo squabbles yet surprisingly (since I have a good 10+ roos in a small confined space together). When my girls get violently bossy, though, the ol' "lock 'em in a crate on public display for a day or two" knocks them off their high horse. Not sure if it would work the same for dudes. It's both a blessing and a curse that NNs are so docile it lands them at the bottom of the pecking order. Mine have now taken to flipping the plastic tub nest boxes upside down on top of themselves to hide from the others. Sounds smart, but by the time I find them, they're soaking wet from moisture buildup and almost suffocated.

As for wattles, I'd say keeping a thick coat of Vaseline on and making sure there's ample ventilation, he'll be ok.

Well we had a small break through, my youngest bantam roo over a year old has decided to leave Ed[NN] alone. But poor guy was chased by my game /bantam beside the house and very large heavy trash can holder[bear proof] and cut his wattle, nothing serious but it bled some. He'll be here 1 week tomorrow so hoping things will settle down more as the days go by. I turned the hose on my game roo yesterday ,and chased him down a few times but that back fired because I scared the poo out of everyone, so unless Ed is being unmercifully beaten up I am going to try not to interfere. Hopefully Rufus will settle down some. Oh and Shay I had a Brahma hen do the flipping over of one of those plastic nest boxes and found her in the nick of time, so now I screw them down so they can't flip them. Thanks for the tip on the public display I may try that if things don't settle down.

 

[flowerchild59]

The magazine article mentioned the NN for good taste and crispy skin.

 

[Miss Lydia]

If this new NN/speckled Sussex breds with any of my EE's is there a chance for some NN/EE's out of that? and when I was reading up on NN I saw a video someone in Peru had made about their NN and how well they were adapted to their very cold above 7000' winter climate. They just look like they need a scarf.

 

[flower]

In the above mating there is a chance of some NN/EE but I would say that many eggs could be hatched to get a fair number of NN/EE. It takes a while to get the DREAM flock.

 

[Miss Lydia]

In the above mating there is a chance of some NN/EE but I would say that many eggs could be hatched to get a fair number of NN/EE. It takes a while to get the DREAM flock.

Thanks flower, I think it would be cool to have that mix since EE's come in such pretty colors. I also have some Blk Australorps that might make a nice mix although it will be funny to see NN EE's and BA's. lol

 

[1TurkenLover]

Anyone have : Silkie/Sultan/Bantam/NN ? At a local auction, discovered a buff Silky - Sultan - Bantam cockerel

( forgot to take Pic since only had Phone cam.) will pick him up in a few weeks, hatched this Spring. and wanting to breed him with my Buff- Bantam NN mix.

I'm just wondering what a chick could look like. and counting the hours . . . .