Naked Neck/Turken Thread

[Fire Ant Farm]

Well I'm down 4 more hens. Something got three last night. I know what it was or at least suspect what it was. Problem getting taken care of now.

Bad part of it is that one of them was my Speckled one. I think another red one and my little Blue Tailed White one.

Looks like a good excuse to hatch out about another 50 fir keeping.

I'm so sorry.

What do you think it was?

The hawk pressure is UNBELIEVABLE here - they are everywhere, all day long. No lost chooks - I think I have the roosters plus experienced flocks to thank, but I'll need to supervise the chicks as they are outside...

*Chuckling* I took out my incubator yesterday for inspection while my son was home. He looked positively mortified. "How many chickens do you already have?" he asked. As if that matters.

Quote: OMG yes - she is a STUNNER!!!!!

Quote: We think so much alike, Soul Sister - I was going to post suggesting leopard print...

Well, I was cleaning brooders today, and I had on my list to clean the part of the S&G NN brooder under the MHP, because even though I had cleaned it out a few days earlier, it was already stinky again. Aaaaaaand what did I find? A dead baby chick on its way to decomposition smooshed into the bedding under there. And then there were 16.

(sigh) So I figured that after finishing the chores I had earned the right to an adult beverage or two.

- Ant Farm

 

[Kev]

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lol! that's them allright! Let us know how it goes? It's the flapping and thrashing around they sometimes do when picked up that makes me worry about their hearts. I did rather like how VERY tame and calm the crosses were. Maybe supervised free ranging if every one else is locked up except for him and her? just want you to finally have some success....

 

[Kev]

@Kev

"In that case the showgirls will be rather easy. A little trick.. breed non fibro birds with blue/slate legs if you can. It's because green and slate legs mean the birds do not have the Id gene, it inhibits pigments in a specific layer of skin, causing the legs to come out either yellow or white. It also messes with fibro.... however it is sex linked so you can do things like yellow/white leg rooster over fibro hens for pullets showing black skins but the cockerels will have a range of nearly normal looking skin despite having fibro or weird things like patches of black/grey skin or a pale gray skin. You can use those cockerels for fibro breeding but these will throw Id into both sexes.

some feather colors and patterns are not good for fibro projects like mottle, barring because they also have the side effect of lightening up the skin. Black, birchen and partridge are the best ones for as dark skin as possible. You can make black skin whites by breeding recessive white with the blacks, this will help with black skinned whites.

that white oeg with slate legs.. look inside her vent and mouth and also if her skin is still thin, look through her skin in her arm pit area and underside of the wing. If everything is very flesh colored, probably not but fibro can vary so widely in how it shows perhaps she will surprise you but..

p.s. breeding with yellow skin/green legs can eventually lead to fibro with a distinct green tint to the skin. Most people don;t care for that.. if you like or want to see it, then breeding with green legged birds would be better rather than yellow legged birds due to Id in the latter."

very interesting and informative! The white oeg is pink all the way around, so she has no fibro? I have a young cockerel that fits your descrption of the sex linked cross: he has grey skin and his legs are patches of almost black and light grey. He looks birchen in his feathering. But he is carrying id. . . The other young cockerel I'm interested in keeping is white but with barring on tail and patches on his wings, funny that that will work against my fibro dreams.

So much to learn . . .

thanks so much!

Ancel

I'd guess the oeg does not have fibro. Not a total guarantee though.. for example this rooster is fibro.. he had greyish skin as a chick. btw fibro varies a LOT even when everything else is otherwise the same on the birds and it is incredibly difficult to breed for a rooster that maintains the dark skin past one yr of age in projects.. anyways here he is.. if I did not mention he is fibro, most people would never guess it was present at all..




Knowing this and looking at him much closer in your hands, you can see a very slight duskiness in some areas(maybe you can see a bit of that below his eye).. his neck is not exactly the same red shade as non fibro roosters(the camera brightened his a skin a slight bit.. it is kind of leaning towards a cranberry red color) other things like a thin black line around his eye and the legs are that color because of it.

that cockerel with patchy legs probably will turn out like him. you can still use him over the right hens to ditch the Id and also the cockerel with barring on his tail.. breed that one with non barred hens, if he only has one copy of barring you should get half non barred offspring, if fibro is also present it will show up better on those.

 

[draye]

I'm so sorry. What do you think it was?

The hawk pressure is UNBELIEVABLE here - they are everywhere, all day long. No lost chooks - I think I have the roosters plus experienced flocks to thank, but I'll need to supervise the chicks as they are outside...



OMG yes - she is a STUNNER!!!!! 

We think so much alike, Soul Sister - I was going to post suggesting leopard print...   

Well, I was cleaning brooders today, and I had on my list to clean the part of the S&G NN brooder under the MHP, because even though I had cleaned it out a few days earlier, it was already stinky again. Aaaaaaand what did I find? A dead baby chick on its way to decomposition smooshed into the bedding under there. And then there were 16. (sigh) So I figured that after finishing the chores I had earned the right to an adult beverage or two.

- Ant Farm

It was my sons dogs. Last week one went missing and I kind of out it to maybe a hawk attack, but I haven't seen any hawks around.

This time there was a big hole that had been covered from another break in back some time ago. They knocked the block over and restretched the wire.

Told him either get them back in their own and keep them there or the shotguns coming out. I just kind of afraid to shoot it anymore as my eyesight isn't so good. But not afraid enough not too if it saves my babies.

 

[I Love Layers]

It was my sons dogs. Last week one went missing and I kind of out it to maybe a hawk attack, but I haven't seen any hawks around.

This time there was a big hole that had been covered from another break in back some time ago. They knocked the block over and restretched the wire.

Told him either get them back in their own and keep them there or the shotguns coming out. I just kind of afraid to shoot it anymore as my eyesight isn't so good. But not afraid enough not too if it saves my babies.

All od our neighbor's agreed to that when we got chickens, if there dogs do happen to come the 2+ miles here we won't call of our dog, but the second time we shoot. And its the same for any livestock. Our dog has the same rules Also with our animals and neighbor's

 

[Phill98]

@Kassaundra the birchen naked neck chick might be a girl. She and the black one.

Other than fm, I also like the beaks your chickens have. It makes them look gamey.

 

[Kassaundra]

@Kassaundra the birchen naked neck chick might be a girl. She and the black one.

Other than fm, I also like the beaks your chickens have. It makes them look gamey.

I have been pretty sure the feather necked black one is a girl for a while. The birchen NN, if it is birchen is almost surely a boy there is way to much white coming in for a girl birchen. I have some of my fm birds (not all so is a specific gene some are getting others are not) that is VERY slow to show male. I've been tricked by them several times. I don't know if you were on this thread during the "Aurdra" days, we were all tricked by him for a looooooong time.

 

[Phill98]

I have been pretty sure the feather necked black one is a girl for a while.  The birchen NN, if it is birchen is almost surely a boy there is way to much white coming in for a girl birchen.  I have some of my fm birds (not all so is a specific gene some are getting others are not) that is VERY slow to show male.  I've been tricked by them several times.   I don't know if you were on this thread during the "Aurdra" days, we were all tricked by him for a looooooong time.

I thought it might be a girl because of the way this colour is developing, even thought I don't know how birchen colour looks in chicks.

Now that I look it side to side with the photo of the barred Nn boy, only difference I can see is fm. Maybe it is confusing me.

I weren't active on this thread when he/she was alive, but I know everything about him since I have read the whole thread. It is still one of my favorite birds I have ever seen.

 

[draye]

When I checked the incubator this morning I had 59 that had hatched so far and there were a few more trying to get out.

Only 21 more to go. I don't think that they all will hatch though. I didn't candle and take out the bad ones this time around. Time hit away from me before I knew it.

 

[DesertChic]

When I checked the incubator this morning I had 59 that had hatched so far and there were a few more trying to get out.

Only 21 more to go. I don't think that they all will hatch though. I didn't candle and take out the bad ones this time around. Time hit away from me before I knew it.

Woohoo! Babies!!!

Congrats!