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I read this and I am just aghast at how outrageous this is
(Article by RaZ)



My story as follows represents the legal events that have taken place over the past year and a half. The tale is actually longer in duration than that.
BACKGROUND.
I live in Garden City, Michigan. A small city of some 20,000 – 25,000 people (2010 Census data) in Wayne County. This municipality was founded back in 1832 as described by the official city website http://www.gardencitymi.org/2010department.asp?p=profile.
“Dating back to 1832, when the first settlers came from Ireland, Mr. John Lathers received a deed signed by Andrew Jackson for 160 acres of land that is now bound by Ford Road, Harrison and Marquette. The original developers of our city pictured it as an independent community containing enough industry to support its citizens. They subdivided large lots, in many cases a full acre, to provide residents ample space for small-scale farming. They patterned the town after the "Garden City" concept that became popular in England during the 19th Century. In 1927, the area was incorporated into a village with an estimated of 900 and an area of 3,600 acres. In December 1933, the big step was taken to incorporate Garden City into a city, having an area of 5.8 miles with a population of 2,500. A charter adopted that year provided for a Mayor-Council non-partisan form of Government. November 1975 saw the installation of a City Manager to join with the existing government. Today, the City has a population of just under 28,000 and is the 42nd largest city in Michigan.”
The above was quoted verbatim as a cut and paste from the website. The number of population has fallen dramatically since 2000 census.

Given its close proximity to Detroit and the car companies there, Garden City became a city of working, middle-class citizens. Garden City can also boast as being the home of the first Little Cesar’s Pizza Parlor and the first K-Mart.
All in all, Garden City is a great place to raise a family and we see many cases of successional generations raising their families in the same home as their parents. I grew up in this city.

NOT SO RECENT EVENTS
I purchased my home in 2000. I started moving in around March of the same year. I moved my bee hives at the same time and was immediately confronted by a neighbor who called the police. The attending officer said that bees were OK if I kept them in my own yard. In hind sight, I should have noted the complaint and resulting dialog. However, I thought that I was within my rights based on the Michigan state law, often referred to as the “Right to Farm Act”. http://legislature.mi.gov/documents/mcl/pdf/mcl-Act-93-of-1981.pdf In fact, I was (am) covered by this law.
Over the next ten years or so, this same neighbor lodged numerous complaints against me. City officials recognized that these complaints were baseless in nature and merely a case of “everyone has one of THOSE neighbors”. That neighbor is known as CS, remember these initials.

MORE RECENT EVENTS
In early 2009, I began researching the plausibility of keeping ducks and chickens as a natural pest control method in lieu of using chemical pesticides. Thorough research indicated that I was legally entitled to keep poultry. Provided that I had a commercial operation to do so. That provision was met by selling eggs and composted manure provided by the chickens. I also met the federal guidelines as a farm operation as established by the USDA.
After nearly a year of keeping poultry, I had a falling out with a different neighbor (CC) over the ducks. At the time, I decided to re-home the ducks and all was well with the neighbors.
Now in 2012, the same neighbor (CC) decided that she didn’t like my chickens and insisted that I get rid of them. Her premise was that I never asked her permission to have chickens in my own private yard. She also made other demands of what I could or could not have within my own yard. Her reasoning was that they had lived here longer than I had and that I needed neighbor permission to take care of my own property and the things that were there. For example, my koi and frog pond was not to her liking. But a particular sore spot for her was a tree growing in my front yard that she did not like. She called the city to cut the tree down and the city refused to come onto my property to remove the tree.
So now I have a ****** off neighbor who calls the ordinance department to complain about chickens that she can’t see and insists on filing a legal complaint. Part of that complaint was that my chickens were harassing her dog through the fence. Seriously?
Anyway, the ordinance officer comes out for an inspection and sees no sign of chickens anywhere on the premises. He did not see a chicken; he did not hear a chicken; he did not smell a chicken. But since I had spoken in favour of a chicken ordinance before city council he decided to issue a ticket based solely on the statement of a ****** off neighbor.
The ordinance violation was written against a 50 year-old ordinance.
§ 90.01 PETS; SALE OF ANIMALS; PROHIBITIONS.
(A) No person shall keep or house any animals or fowl within the city except dogs, cats, canaries, or animals commonly classified as pets, customarily kept or housed inside dwellings as household pets.
(B) No person shall sell, or offer for sale, barter, or give away baby chicks, rabbits, ducklings, or other fowl as pets or novelties, whether or not dyed, colored, or otherwise artificially treated. This division shall not be construed to prohibit the display or sale of natural chicks or ducklings in proper brooder facilities by hatcheries or stores engaged in the business of selling the same to be raised for commercial purposes.
(Ord. 11-006, passed 4-25-11)

Copied verbatim from: http://www.amlegal.com/nxt/gateway....$fn=default.htm$3.0$vid=amlegal:gardencity_mi

LEGAL PROCEEDINGS
The ordinance officer visited my farm on March 21, 2012. Several weeks later, I received a post card from 21st District Court to appear for a zoning violation dated March 23, 2012.
Mid-April, I appeared in court before the Honorable Judge Richard L, Hammer, Jr. of the 21st. District Court. The judge sent me back to meet with the city prosecutor, Timothy L. Cronin (P26417). During this meeting, Mr. Cronin said that if I wanted a farm then I should move out of the city. When I replied that I am unable to move, he said that chickens were not allowed in the city and if I pursued the case that he would “make an example” of me. He went on to say that the mayor did not want farm animals in the city and that he took direction from the mayor. He further indicated that I was not welcome in this city and I would be foolish to continue the case. At no time did he indicate that a compromise could be reached. The case was returned to the judge who set a new appearance date for a few weeks later. I appeared in April and May of 2012 only to have the dates postponed again.
Following those court appearances, I attended city council meetings and spoke in favour of allowing chickens in Garden City. During one of those meetings, I met a report for the local paper, the Garden City Observer. Reporter Sue Buck spoke to me and asked for an interview and photo session regarding backyard chickens. The article ran on the front page of the June 24 issue. About that time two (2) other people who spoke in favour of keeping chickens were also charged with violations. Again, the ordinance officer saw no chickens at either defendants’ residence. Tickets were simply mailed.
Now in July of 2012, the animosity of the neighbors has grown. One (CC) vandalized my property and then called the city that my property was in disarray. Then an anonymous call was made to police about a crowing rooster. Oddly enough, I had no rooster at all. July 17th, I had a court appearance and while I was at court, the neighbors (CC’s husband and CS) went to visit my mother who resides in another city. They essentially threaten her in order to get me to get rid of my chickens. Picture, if you will, two (2) men, both over 6 foot tall and well over 200 pounds, standing over an 80 year-old widow making demands that she force her son to capitulate to their demands. My poor mother was so intimidated that she cannot answer the doorbell to this day. The police here in Garden City declined to intervene. The police in Westland paid a “safety call” to my mom but did nothing else.
By the end of July, the police had been called to my house a half a dozen times. Each time was a response to an anonymous complaint called in. No charges were leveled.

In August, the police came again in response to a call reporting a skunk. A skunk was found in the neighbor’s yard (CC). Three police officers in two cars responded to the call. They insisted that I do something about the skunk in the neighbor’s yard. The neighbor had mentioned that the skunk had come from me and that I had sent it to spray them. Seriously? Can someone train a skunk to target someone else? So a wild animal is found in someone’s yard. Guess who was cited for having an un-licensed animal. I got a ticket for a wild animal in another person’s yard. The armed police officers forced me from my house to go retrieve a wild skunk. The poor skunk was an orphan with eyes barely open. It was obvious that this poor animal was lost from its mother. I was forced to get the skunk out from under the neighbor’s car. I contacted an animal rescue organization and turned the poor, lost baby over to a wildlife rehabilitator. In return, I get a ticket for following police direction. Seriously?
Next in August, I’m called into court on three (3) separate dates. Each date is another adjournment of the chicken case. Each of the same dates, the ordinance officer (OO) comes to my house for yet another violation investigation. Keep in mind that the OO was in court during my appearances. The first time he tells me that he enjoys neighbor spats because it keeps him employed and that he get overtime pay for follow ups. The last time here, he tells me that he has the power to put me in jail and make my life miserable. I asked him to leave and he got belligerent. I asked again and he resorted to cursing. At this point, I responded in kind and told him to get the F*** off my property and only return with a warrant. He hasn’t been back since then.
The rest of autumn was a routine of appearing before the judge for yet another delay or postponement of the case. But during that time, the court graciously allowed for me to have a court appointed attorney to represent me.

COUNSEL REPRESENTATION
I’ll have to check my notes, but sometime in fall I was granted a court appointed attorney for my case. Initially, the court told him that the case was about the skunk but in reality, the case was about keeping chickens and the Michigan Right to Farm Act.
My appointed attorney, James M. Jernigan (P-57035) took the case even though he was somewhat skeptical at first. I explained the RTFA as I understood it and how it applied to my case. I explained the GAAMPs, the history of the law and cited other cases that had been tried and eventually reached the Michigan Court of Appeals.
I would like to think that I intrigued his sense of justice but maybe it was just a case of trying a legal case based on cause. In any event, Mr. Jernigan went far above what I expected from a public defender representing an indigent defendant. I can’t express my gratitude for his help.
From the time he took the case, Mr. Jernigan represented me in several appearances that were delayed time and again. Parts of those delays were because of another chicken keeper case being tried in the 21st District Court. That case was actually moved to the city of Wayne and presided by Judge Laura R. Mack, because Judge Hammer was recused for reasons that I cannot comment on. That case is City of Garden City v. Pete Santeiu (Case No, 12 GC 1547 OM). That case was dismissed by Judge Mack. Signed and dated: January 7, 2013.
In early February, the prosecution amended my case to be a criminal complaint rather than the original animal ordinance violation.
Now we get back to my case. It was scheduled for a two (2) day jury trial on April 11 and 12, 2013. The judge made it clear that even though the trial was scheduled for 2 days, we were to wrap up the case in one day. Several points of law were disallowed based on the fact that this was a criminal charge and not merely a zoning violation. Case law, Court of Appeals decisions and opinions were discounted. The ruling of Judge Mack (representing the same court) was disallowed. The burden of proof from the prosecution was lesser than the burden of proof of defense (in my opinion). Essentially, I thought that our defense was curtailed from the onset.
Prosecution witnesses were allowed to observe all initial proceedings while defense witnesses were excluded from the instructions. Prosecution also had the OO at the table throughout the entire proceeding even though he was a witness. I think this had an undue influence on the jury.
Prosecution called two (2) witnesses. One was the OO who admitted to never seeing a chicken or any evidence of chickens. He admitted under cross-examination that he observed no violations. The second witness (CS) who admitted that he harboured animosity toward the defendant (me). Several defense witnesses testified that I was running a commercial operation and that they had purchased farm products (eggs) from me over the past few years. Neighbors testified that my operation was clean and odor free. There has never been an issue with my chickens and that I am a good neighbor.
I testified on my own behalf and tried to educate the jury about GAAMPs and MAEAPs and good animal husbandry. My testimony was often interrupted by the prosecution and my attempts of allocation were stifled.
After a recess for lunch, the prosecution began cross-examination. During the cross, prosecution presented documents (not entered into evidence) that challenged my claim of GAAMP compliance. In a nutshell, it was argued that by me exceeding the GAAMP protocols, I was not “following” the GAAMPs. Thus if I wasn’t following GAAMPs then I was not compliant.
It was a last minute Hail Mary ploy but I have to admit that it was presented very well. I figured that exceeding the minimum requirements was a good thing. The jury found otherwise.
I was found guilty of the Criminal Charge of Keeping Chickens!
Let me repeat that, CRIMINAL chicken keeping.

Think about that for a minute. A criminal charge follows you for your entire life. A criminal charge must be reported on job applications. A criminal conviction is reported to state and federal agencies.

SENTENCING
The sentence is:
30 days in jail
6 months of reporting to probation
$905 in fines
Pay for the court appointed attorney
Comply with all city ordinances.

But the judge was "nice" and suspended the jail time. However, if I fail on any of the above details I will be thrown in jail. That was clearly stated.
A few days after conviction, new ordinance violations arrived in the mail. These include the skunk, a vandalized porch and peeling paint on my garage. The OO has indicated that he will be visiting often and writing violations for anything that he can. I can expect another year of bi-monthly court appearances.
 
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Haven't been on here in forever but just a news update... We got our six chicks from my pet chicken two weeks ago. They are all alive, healthy, and happy to be wherever the food is. Here are some pics... We got two white silkies, one Easter eager, on speckled Sussex, one barred rock, and one Australorp. Here they are:
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cute! I love silkies but don't have any. I do have two EE's though! my calmest chicken is an EE. I also like barred rocks.
So... good choices!
 
I read this and I am just aghast at how outrageous this is
(Article by RaZ)



My story as follows represents the legal events that have taken place over the past year and a half. The tale is actually longer in duration than that.
BACKGROUND.
I live in Garden City, Michigan. A small city of some 20,000 – 25,000 people (2010 Census data) in Wayne County. This municipality was founded back in 1832 as described by the official city website http://www.gardencitymi.org/2010department.asp?p=profile.
“Dating back to 1832, when the first settlers came from Ireland, Mr. John Lathers received a deed signed by Andrew Jackson for 160 acres of land that is now bound by Ford Road, Harrison and Marquette. The original developers of our city pictured it as an independent community containing enough industry to support its citizens. They subdivided large lots, in many cases a full acre, to provide residents ample space for small-scale farming. They patterned the town after the "Garden City" concept that became popular in England during the 19th Century. In 1927, the area was incorporated into a village with an estimated of 900 and an area of 3,600 acres. In December 1933, the big step was taken to incorporate Garden City into a city, having an area of 5.8 miles with a population of 2,500. A charter adopted that year provided for a Mayor-Council non-partisan form of Government. November 1975 saw the installation of a City Manager to join with the existing government. Today, the City has a population of just under 28,000 and is the 42nd largest city in Michigan.”
The above was quoted verbatim as a cut and paste from the website. The number of population has fallen dramatically since 2000 census.

Given its close proximity to Detroit and the car companies there, Garden City became a city of working, middle-class citizens. Garden City can also boast as being the home of the first Little Cesar’s Pizza Parlor and the first K-Mart.
All in all, Garden City is a great place to raise a family and we see many cases of successional generations raising their families in the same home as their parents. I grew up in this city.

NOT SO RECENT EVENTS
I purchased my home in 2000. I started moving in around March of the same year. I moved my bee hives at the same time and was immediately confronted by a neighbor who called the police. The attending officer said that bees were OK if I kept them in my own yard. In hind sight, I should have noted the complaint and resulting dialog. However, I thought that I was within my rights based on the Michigan state law, often referred to as the “Right to Farm Act”. http://legislature.mi.gov/documents/mcl/pdf/mcl-Act-93-of-1981.pdf In fact, I was (am) covered by this law.
Over the next ten years or so, this same neighbor lodged numerous complaints against me. City officials recognized that these complaints were baseless in nature and merely a case of “everyone has one of THOSE neighbors”. That neighbor is known as CS, remember these initials.

MORE RECENT EVENTS
In early 2009, I began researching the plausibility of keeping ducks and chickens as a natural pest control method in lieu of using chemical pesticides. Thorough research indicated that I was legally entitled to keep poultry. Provided that I had a commercial operation to do so. That provision was met by selling eggs and composted manure provided by the chickens. I also met the federal guidelines as a farm operation as established by the USDA.
After nearly a year of keeping poultry, I had a falling out with a different neighbor (CC) over the ducks. At the time, I decided to re-home the ducks and all was well with the neighbors.
Now in 2012, the same neighbor (CC) decided that she didn’t like my chickens and insisted that I get rid of them. Her premise was that I never asked her permission to have chickens in my own private yard. She also made other demands of what I could or could not have within my own yard. Her reasoning was that they had lived here longer than I had and that I needed neighbor permission to take care of my own property and the things that were there. For example, my koi and frog pond was not to her liking. But a particular sore spot for her was a tree growing in my front yard that she did not like. She called the city to cut the tree down and the city refused to come onto my property to remove the tree.
So now I have a ****** off neighbor who calls the ordinance department to complain about chickens that she can’t see and insists on filing a legal complaint. Part of that complaint was that my chickens were harassing her dog through the fence. Seriously?
Anyway, the ordinance officer comes out for an inspection and sees no sign of chickens anywhere on the premises. He did not see a chicken; he did not hear a chicken; he did not smell a chicken. But since I had spoken in favour of a chicken ordinance before city council he decided to issue a ticket based solely on the statement of a ****** off neighbor.
The ordinance violation was written against a 50 year-old ordinance.
§ 90.01 PETS; SALE OF ANIMALS; PROHIBITIONS.
(A) No person shall keep or house any animals or fowl within the city except dogs, cats, canaries, or animals commonly classified as pets, customarily kept or housed inside dwellings as household pets.
(B) No person shall sell, or offer for sale, barter, or give away baby chicks, rabbits, ducklings, or other fowl as pets or novelties, whether or not dyed, colored, or otherwise artificially treated. This division shall not be construed to prohibit the display or sale of natural chicks or ducklings in proper brooder facilities by hatcheries or stores engaged in the business of selling the same to be raised for commercial purposes.
(Ord. 11-006, passed 4-25-11)

Copied verbatim from: http://www.amlegal.com/nxt/gateway....$fn=default.htm$3.0$vid=amlegal:gardencity_mi

LEGAL PROCEEDINGS
The ordinance officer visited my farm on March 21, 2012. Several weeks later, I received a post card from 21st District Court to appear for a zoning violation dated March 23, 2012.
Mid-April, I appeared in court before the Honorable Judge Richard L, Hammer, Jr. of the 21st. District Court. The judge sent me back to meet with the city prosecutor, Timothy L. Cronin (P26417). During this meeting, Mr. Cronin said that if I wanted a farm then I should move out of the city. When I replied that I am unable to move, he said that chickens were not allowed in the city and if I pursued the case that he would “make an example” of me. He went on to say that the mayor did not want farm animals in the city and that he took direction from the mayor. He further indicated that I was not welcome in this city and I would be foolish to continue the case. At no time did he indicate that a compromise could be reached. The case was returned to the judge who set a new appearance date for a few weeks later. I appeared in April and May of 2012 only to have the dates postponed again.
Following those court appearances, I attended city council meetings and spoke in favour of allowing chickens in Garden City. During one of those meetings, I met a report for the local paper, the Garden City Observer. Reporter Sue Buck spoke to me and asked for an interview and photo session regarding backyard chickens. The article ran on the front page of the June 24 issue. About that time two (2) other people who spoke in favour of keeping chickens were also charged with violations. Again, the ordinance officer saw no chickens at either defendants’ residence. Tickets were simply mailed.
Now in July of 2012, the animosity of the neighbors has grown. One (CC) vandalized my property and then called the city that my property was in disarray. Then an anonymous call was made to police about a crowing rooster. Oddly enough, I had no rooster at all. July 17th, I had a court appearance and while I was at court, the neighbors (CC’s husband and CS) went to visit my mother who resides in another city. They essentially threaten her in order to get me to get rid of my chickens. Picture, if you will, two (2) men, both over 6 foot tall and well over 200 pounds, standing over an 80 year-old widow making demands that she force her son to capitulate to their demands. My poor mother was so intimidated that she cannot answer the doorbell to this day. The police here in Garden City declined to intervene. The police in Westland paid a “safety call” to my mom but did nothing else.
By the end of July, the police had been called to my house a half a dozen times. Each time was a response to an anonymous complaint called in. No charges were leveled.

In August, the police came again in response to a call reporting a skunk. A skunk was found in the neighbor’s yard (CC). Three police officers in two cars responded to the call. They insisted that I do something about the skunk in the neighbor’s yard. The neighbor had mentioned that the skunk had come from me and that I had sent it to spray them. Seriously? Can someone train a skunk to target someone else? So a wild animal is found in someone’s yard. Guess who was cited for having an un-licensed animal. I got a ticket for a wild animal in another person’s yard. The armed police officers forced me from my house to go retrieve a wild skunk. The poor skunk was an orphan with eyes barely open. It was obvious that this poor animal was lost from its mother. I was forced to get the skunk out from under the neighbor’s car. I contacted an animal rescue organization and turned the poor, lost baby over to a wildlife rehabilitator. In return, I get a ticket for following police direction. Seriously?
Next in August, I’m called into court on three (3) separate dates. Each date is another adjournment of the chicken case. Each of the same dates, the ordinance officer (OO) comes to my house for yet another violation investigation. Keep in mind that the OO was in court during my appearances. The first time he tells me that he enjoys neighbor spats because it keeps him employed and that he get overtime pay for follow ups. The last time here, he tells me that he has the power to put me in jail and make my life miserable. I asked him to leave and he got belligerent. I asked again and he resorted to cursing. At this point, I responded in kind and told him to get the F*** off my property and only return with a warrant. He hasn’t been back since then.
The rest of autumn was a routine of appearing before the judge for yet another delay or postponement of the case. But during that time, the court graciously allowed for me to have a court appointed attorney to represent me.

COUNSEL REPRESENTATION
I’ll have to check my notes, but sometime in fall I was granted a court appointed attorney for my case. Initially, the court told him that the case was about the skunk but in reality, the case was about keeping chickens and the Michigan Right to Farm Act.
My appointed attorney, James M. Jernigan (P-57035) took the case even though he was somewhat skeptical at first. I explained the RTFA as I understood it and how it applied to my case. I explained the GAAMPs, the history of the law and cited other cases that had been tried and eventually reached the Michigan Court of Appeals.
I would like to think that I intrigued his sense of justice but maybe it was just a case of trying a legal case based on cause. In any event, Mr. Jernigan went far above what I expected from a public defender representing an indigent defendant. I can’t express my gratitude for his help.
From the time he took the case, Mr. Jernigan represented me in several appearances that were delayed time and again. Parts of those delays were because of another chicken keeper case being tried in the 21st District Court. That case was actually moved to the city of Wayne and presided by Judge Laura R. Mack, because Judge Hammer was recused for reasons that I cannot comment on. That case is City of Garden City v. Pete Santeiu (Case No, 12 GC 1547 OM). That case was dismissed by Judge Mack. Signed and dated: January 7, 2013.
In early February, the prosecution amended my case to be a criminal complaint rather than the original animal ordinance violation.
Now we get back to my case. It was scheduled for a two (2) day jury trial on April 11 and 12, 2013. The judge made it clear that even though the trial was scheduled for 2 days, we were to wrap up the case in one day. Several points of law were disallowed based on the fact that this was a criminal charge and not merely a zoning violation. Case law, Court of Appeals decisions and opinions were discounted. The ruling of Judge Mack (representing the same court) was disallowed. The burden of proof from the prosecution was lesser than the burden of proof of defense (in my opinion). Essentially, I thought that our defense was curtailed from the onset.
Prosecution witnesses were allowed to observe all initial proceedings while defense witnesses were excluded from the instructions. Prosecution also had the OO at the table throughout the entire proceeding even though he was a witness. I think this had an undue influence on the jury.
Prosecution called two (2) witnesses. One was the OO who admitted to never seeing a chicken or any evidence of chickens. He admitted under cross-examination that he observed no violations. The second witness (CS) who admitted that he harboured animosity toward the defendant (me). Several defense witnesses testified that I was running a commercial operation and that they had purchased farm products (eggs) from me over the past few years. Neighbors testified that my operation was clean and odor free. There has never been an issue with my chickens and that I am a good neighbor.
I testified on my own behalf and tried to educate the jury about GAAMPs and MAEAPs and good animal husbandry. My testimony was often interrupted by the prosecution and my attempts of allocation were stifled.
After a recess for lunch, the prosecution began cross-examination. During the cross, prosecution presented documents (not entered into evidence) that challenged my claim of GAAMP compliance. In a nutshell, it was argued that by me exceeding the GAAMP protocols, I was not “following” the GAAMPs. Thus if I wasn’t following GAAMPs then I was not compliant.
It was a last minute Hail Mary ploy but I have to admit that it was presented very well. I figured that exceeding the minimum requirements was a good thing. The jury found otherwise.
I was found guilty of the Criminal Charge of Keeping Chickens!
Let me repeat that, CRIMINAL chicken keeping.

Think about that for a minute. A criminal charge follows you for your entire life. A criminal charge must be reported on job applications. A criminal conviction is reported to state and federal agencies.

SENTENCING
The sentence is:
30 days in jail
6 months of reporting to probation
$905 in fines
Pay for the court appointed attorney
Comply with all city ordinances.

But the judge was "nice" and suspended the jail time. However, if I fail on any of the above details I will be thrown in jail. That was clearly stated.
A few days after conviction, new ordinance violations arrived in the mail. These include the skunk, a vandalized porch and peeling paint on my garage. The OO has indicated that he will be visiting often and writing violations for anything that he can. I can expect another year of bi-monthly court appearances.
WHAT????!!!!!!
 
That's one thing I do have plenty of.  I used to tuck them into cartons of standard eggs I sold, and not charge any extra, but then I decided people were getting too good of a deal when they really couldn't care less if they had chicken or duck.  So now I tuck some in if they want to pay me a little extra.  Otherwise, I just save them for us.  Deviled duck eggs are even better than deviled chicken eggs, especially with the zucchini relish I made last year.

Cool. I need a few. :)

I never did like duck eggs. I hear they are good for making pastry though!

Yes! They are awesome for baked goods.


FC that was one wild story and I have read a lot of horror stories along those lines here on BYC! I do not understand some people! :(
 
Ohmygoodness. Through an incredible stroke of luck, I ended up with a free breeding pair of Californian rabbits! I finally found an ad on Craigslist, with someone who just needed to get them to a good home due to complaining neighbors. They're massive (close to 15 lbs each) and my children are totally in love
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In other news, my chicks are finally shipping on Monday! I'll have them by Wednesday at the latest. I'm so excited! After a year of planning and hoping, things are falling into place!
 
Ohmygoodness. Through an incredible stroke of luck, I ended up with a free breeding pair of Californian rabbits! I finally found an ad on Craigslist, with someone who just needed to get them to a good home due to complaining neighbors. They're massive (close to 15 lbs each) and my children are totally in love
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In other news, my chicks are finally shipping on Monday! I'll have them by Wednesday at the latest. I'm so excited! After a year of planning and hoping, things are falling into place!
I need picture cuase calfornias should not be 15LBS!!
 
Ohmygoodness. Through an incredible stroke of luck, I ended up with a free breeding pair of Californian rabbits! I finally found an ad on Craigslist, with someone who just needed to get them to a good home due to complaining neighbors. They're massive (close to 15 lbs each) and my children are totally in love :love

In other news, my chicks are finally shipping on Monday! I'll have them by Wednesday at the latest. I'm so excited! After a year of planning and hoping, things are falling into place!

Woo hoo! CONGRATS!!!

Michigan! We moved there when I was 12 due to my stepdad's job. Hated it! I swear, that place sucks and so do their ordinances!

Wow, I believe you now! I thought you just meant the weather when you talked about Michigan!
 
Ohmygoodness. Through an incredible stroke of luck, I ended up with a free breeding pair of Californian rabbits! I finally found an ad on Craigslist, with someone who just needed to get them to a good home due to complaining neighbors. They're massive (close to 15 lbs each) and my children are totally in love
love.gif


In other news, my chicks are finally shipping on Monday! I'll have them by Wednesday at the latest. I'm so excited! After a year of planning and hoping, things are falling into place!

Complaining about two rabbits??? I hope that person never tries chickens! I'm soooooo glad my neighbors have been awesome about my animals.
 
I will be thinking about rehoming a few hens some time this month if anyone in the Reno area will be interested or know interested parties. So far on the list 1 each of LF blue cochin, dark brahma, norwegian jaerhon (small, friendly and lays medium to large white egg; I have 2 others and want to keep 2). Possibly a lavender ameraucana and black/lavender split ameraucana. I just need to have a smaller flock due to grumpy neighbor. all of these are 1 year old with the first three from ideal and the last two from n. cal breeders. the lav is either from Candy (chickee) or her friend Kirsti and the black/lav is from Kirsti. I probably need to reduce by a few more but that's all that I can muster for my list right now. I love my girls! These ones are not particularly loud birds either. I'm just reducing numbers to reduce overall noise.
Ohmygoodness. Through an incredible stroke of luck, I ended up with a free breeding pair of Californian rabbits! I finally found an ad on Craigslist, with someone who just needed to get them to a good home due to complaining neighbors. They're massive (close to 15 lbs each) and my children are totally in love
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In other news, my chicks are finally shipping on Monday! I'll have them by Wednesday at the latest. I'm so excited! After a year of planning and hoping, things are falling into place!
that's great but I'm also thinking, who would complain about 2 rabbits? I thought they were pretty quiet or how much could 2 rabbits poop? I wouldn't think a neighbor would even notice a rabbit. how exciting about the chicks coming. I loved having chicks. My kids think we should take home the chicks they are hatching at school but I said, no chicks this year and I'm sticking to it.
 

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