North Carolina ban to Kill Numerous Breeds

[Brindlebtch]

All breeds have their problems.

I also agree that most of the pit witch hunt is media driven. If somebody gets a husky on video acting badly. no news station wants to air it. If somebody get a dog that even remotely looks like a pit behaving badly, it is all over the news and gets pick up nationally and shown over and over because it sells.

 

[Connorrm]

I just can't get over the shear amount of ignorance in this thread. First and foremost a pitbull includes several differed t breeds....

Am staff
American Bull Dog
Bull terrier (spuds mckenzie)
American Bullies
American Pitt Bull Terrier

Keep in mind, they were bred for working farm dogs originally. They are currently being hailed due to their pain tolerance as the dogs of choice for feral hog removal in the southern states.

Also, the AKC keeps a list of registered dogs in the US there is no way to determine how many pit bull type dogs are out there. However many experts and the aspca believe they out number the most popular dog, the lab, by 5:1. Meaning if you have five times as many dogs out there, of course you're going to see more bites from them. They haven't been bred for agreession since the early 1900s when dog fighting was largely moved to be illegal. So just stop citing that. The English bulldog was bred to bait bulls and fight them, only 100 years ago. Now, they're lazy family pets.

 

[animalpro24]

I'v read through this whole forum and agree completely with Dainerra.
I believe that the dogs that do attack and potentially kill have been in these situations: Chained, Bad breeding, irresponsible training or not training, and the way it's treated. And there are even more reasons. I accept any breed can KILL, but it doesn't mean they WILL. We own a standard poodle and I would trust any kid with her. Doesn't mean I'm gonna trust any poodle out there, or any dog. Deerman you have good points, but I disagree with you.
I don't think putting dogs down is a terrible thing and most of the time it's necessary, but I don't think "oh it's a pit bull or GSD, it should be put down."
Yes Pit bulls can do pretty bad damage, but so can golden retrievers, but it doesn't mean they will.

I looked up dog attacks in Oregon of 2011 and almost all of them were Pit bull or Pit bull types. What makes me mad is that they aren't even Pit bull mixes, they are pit bull types, THAT COULD BE ANYTHING! People assume almost every dog attack they hear about is a Pit bull attack. It is so frustrating and half the time people can't tell a "Pit bull" from a chunky lab!!

 

[deerman]

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Well many are still bred for fighting...yes illegal to fight them......,lot of people still doing so......its illegal to sell drugs ,but that still goes on also.

You are right lot of the breeds out there used pit bull to preduce the breed .

 

[al6517]

Deerman : I am sorry but I will have to leave you to the wolf's, we went from killer Pit's to killer deer and the pit owners are rationalizing to the point of even confusing themselfs. I have my feelings about it and I will leave it at that in the voice of not wanting to stir anything up, so Good luck to all, and here is hoping it all get's sorted out one way or another, for both the Dog's and the people.

 

[Jamie_Dog_Trainer]

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Hi Brindle

I know they were bred for, I was just trying to illustrate my opposite experience to the folks here saying the dog-aggression has been bred out of them.

It is going to take a long time before that trait is really bred out, and then there will always be the "people" who breed for dog aggression so...

In these particular cases there were warning signs of aggression and these trainers were careful for the most part. But there was "just this once" of the dogs being out in a large x-pen unsupervised. It was really horrific.

 

[RHRanch]

So, it is the position of those who are for banning Pits that all the responsible owners whose dogs have never harmed anyone should have their dogs euthanized because of a small % of all Pit Bulls or Bully Breeds have either bitten or killed people? (And please, I don't want to see someone posting the % of people bitten by Pits vs other breeds, when I say small %, I mean that the % of all Pit Bulls that have bitten and killed people is small when you take into consideration Pit & Bully Breed population size.)

Because, that's in my opinion an irrational stance, punish all for a very few? That's crazy. Like here in SD, because some people are involved with illegal activities with roosters, the county made it so you can have hardly any roosters. That's ridiculous. What is this kindergarten?

 

[Brindlebtch]

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Hi Brindle

I know they were bred for, I was just trying to illustrate my opposite experience to the folks here saying the dog-aggression has been bred out of them.

It is going to take a long time before that trait is really bred out, and then there will always be the "people" who breed for dog aggression so...

In these particular cases there were warning signs of aggression and these trainers were careful for the most part. But there was "just this once" of the dogs being out in a large x-pen unsupervised. It was really horrific.

I know you do. Sorry. I was getting wound up.

Aggression hasn't really been bred out of pit bulls. With AmStaffs, some are less game, but obviously it pays to be careful.
Those trainers were stupid and the dogs paid for it.

 

[deerman]

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Ok i'm with you ..one post the pits are so loving you can leave your children with them, then that one of the reason they say cause the pit to killed kids.

How the number out number any other bred.....well they don't out number total of all other large breeds....well wait, except in the number that have killed people.

Pits are not used in police work ...why because once giving order to attack....the Officer would play hell trying to stop the attack....not so with the GSD. Plus the police dog is to hold the person...not kill them...which good odds the pit would.

Oh the info on the dog being pit in these attacks that kill......over half its from the owners.

untill pit owner are able to accept the danger of the breed...sorry little hope things will get better.

I know the danger of GSD and most breeds....would i leave a small child alone with one NO.

 

[deerman]

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Hi Brindle

I know they were bred for, I was just trying to illustrate my opposite experience to the folks here saying the dog-aggression has been bred out of them.

It is going to take a long time before that trait is really bred out, and then there will always be the "people" who breed for dog aggression so...

In these particular cases there were warning signs of aggression and these trainers were careful for the most part. But there was "just this once" of the dogs being out in a large x-pen unsupervised. It was really horrific.

I know you do. Sorry. I was getting wound up.

Aggression hasn't really been bred out of pit bulls. With AmStaffs, some are less game, but obviously it pays to be careful.

yes if more owner of pits were like you.........big improvement could be made in the breed.