Ownder Defends Business

[bigdaddyabc]

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Stealing from me means that your are taking from me the items I EARNED for the purpose of feeding my children. Steal enough and I can't feed them at all. My kids don't eat, they die. they die, you die. I'm just getting to the point earlier. And since you think I am being overly absurd, be assured that I am only doing it to point out the absurdity in your statement. I don't WANT to shoot anyone, but if they CHOOSE to be where they shouldn't, doing the illegal then really, they are proving Darwin right and I am simply culling the weak (ethically, morally, mentally, whatever) from the herd. At least they won't breed a bunch of little criminals.

 

[schellie69]

I think every state should have the law that allows people the right to protect what is theirs. I own a gun and if someone comes into my home to cause harm to me or mine they will be leaving with bullet holes in them. I have no law here that protects from this and yes I will go to jail but I am willing to do that so my family is not harmed. I lived in Texas when the "make my day law" law passed home invasions dropped by 95% within a month of the law passing why the criminals knew people where armed and allowed to use the guns that they had. I Do believe that everyone has the right to protect what is theirs.

 

[halo]

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Say this when your neighbor gets robbed, and killed, over a few bucks. Happens every day. Say it when that same robber goes after you.

I will never live in a state where you can't protect yourself and your property legally with a gun.

 

[colowyo0809]

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Stealing from me means that your are taking from me the items I EARNED for the purpose of feeding my children. Steal enough and I can't feed them at all. My kids don't eat, they die. they die, you die. I'm just getting to the point earlier. And since you think I am being overly absurd, be assured that I am only doing it to point out the absurdity in your statement. I don't WANT to shoot anyone, but if they CHOOSE to be where they shouldn't, doing the illegal, then really, they are proving Darwin right and I am simply culling the weak (ethically, morally, mentally, whatever) from the heard. At least they won't breed a bunch of little criminals.

I tend to agree with you, that people should be punished. And I have no problems with each person having their own opinion. However, if your going to talk about culling the mentally weak, spell the herd correctly

I don't necessarily agree with using a firearm for protection. I personally believe more in the old school style of defense. Get in close and get it done with your hands. A hands on approach is always the best way to go. And, having your hands on a really good, solid, baseball bat would be a good way to start

I have just enough training in the martial arts to have absolutely no idea what I'm doing, but you put a long stick of wood in my hands and I'm rather dangerous

I prefer not to kill, it takes all the punishment out of it. Besides, when they go to jail and people find out that they were sent there by the limpwristed homo (i am one, its ok to use this word

), its soo much more satisfying than to simply shoot from a distance.

Also, I do agree with being overly harsh on criminals. hang em, cut em, make them pay. Deterence is the best policy, and the only way to deter is to make sure it is understood that it will not be tolerated. I am a liberal in alot of things, but crime ain't one of them.

 

[cafe]

Hmm. Well, we do have a lot of meth problems in my area and meth-heads do steal and get violent. Usually their violence is directed against their own friends and family, though. People that are hanging out getting drunk and/or high together tend to be the ones that get into violent situations.

We get a lot of break-ins around here but they are usually during the day while people are at work -- they don't want anybody home when they steal. They want stuff to sell to the pawn shop in order to buy drugs, not to attack people. They are in a hurry to get in and get out, not that they wouldn't hurt someone if they were surprised or cornered. Maybe my area has unusually non-violent burglars, but it's really rare for people to get hurt during a break-in.

I'm not saying I don't take precautions -- when school is in session, I'm home alone all day generally with no vehicle out front to indicate the home isn't empty. But my dogs (watch dogs, not guard dogs) bark up a storm when anyone comes near the house. That is why I got dogs. I think my black and tan mutt would probably hurt anybody that looked like they were trying to harm myself or one of the kids, but she's a forty pound mutt, not an attack breed. I keep the curtains closed after dark so folks passing by can't see our electronics and we don't put the boxes for recently purchased items out by the garbage for anyone to see. The police station is only a few minutes away and the fire house is on the opposite corner of the block.

My children are hardly going to starve if someone were to walk off with my computer or a bicycle. If we start getting home invasion burglaries, I would probably change my tune, but for now, I'd rather lose my air conditioner than shoot a person for trying to steal it. I'd rather stay out of their way and call the police than confront them with a gun.

 

[jbowen9]

Well this is my opinion and i get what most are saying but the point is the guys was stealing a air conditioner this time whats to say a car the next time and rape someone the next time then kill a kid or something the next time it is proven many times all criminals start out petty then increase everytime they dont get caught so who to say this guys wife wasnt next if she opened up the business? That is something for the na sayers to think about what if it was your daughter opening up that business that morning or your son think about it. Now thanks to this guy that is 2 that you will not have to worry about. All that been said i live in the communist state of virginia you cant shoot someone unless they are trying to do harm to you or family so this is my suggestion to all and this applys too. This is what i would do if you break in my house be aware you will be armed when the cops get here to drag your dead body out of my house.

 

[JetBlack]

Punishment must be far worse than the crime.

If you shoplift and then only have to get a fine for the value of what you shoplifted, where is the downside to stealing? It costs you the same, but only if you get caught. Every time you don't get caught, you win!

I feel that shorter prison sentences would work terrific, if they were solitary confinement sentences. Silence, no reading, no TV, nothing but you and your thoughts. How long would two years of sitting quietly last, for you? Try it for a few days. Take everything out of your bathroom, except the TP, toothbrush and toothpaste. Put cardboard over the window. No clock for you. Sit in there for the weekend. What if that room was your sentence, for 3 months, for shoplifting?

A guy I worked with was a Bulldog, in Southern California. His wife's mother was found stuffed in a dumpster. Well, her body was. Never caught her killer(s). Her father was murdered by his best friend, because he had killed a rival gang member and to prevent a small gang war, his own gang executed him and dumped his body next to the train tracks, just inside the rival gang's territory. His murderer(s) were never tried or brought to justice. That old co-worker still feels there are things he did, for which he should *still* be killed. From ages 15-21, he was locked up for a string of ATM robberies (armed). He said he would not have hesitated to kill any of his victims, if they had fought back.

If someone is stealing your AC unit, you should not have to replace it. It should not be stolen. There will be no discussion as to whether or not the thieves will simply walk away, wait with you, for the police to show up to take them away, for their just rewards or if they will cut you to ribbons, with their knives. Possibly the AC unit owner should have held them for police, assuming they don't run to freedom, giving him the finger on their way and laughing at him, for his weakness. Don't draw your gun on someone unless you are willing to shoot them. A gun is not for show. If you have your gun out, on an offender and he makes any sudden moves, you have a very short time to decide if he just slipped or is "making a move". No one but people who weren't there will question what you do next. When things go wrong in a stiuation, like that, they don't go wrong a little.

We think that those two got shot when "all they were doing was stealing an air conditioning unit". What did they do when the owner showed up? Anyone know? Did he feel threatened by them? He got them both in the abdomen... not the back, so they were facing him, when he fired. Both men were facing him. Even the second one. Neither turned and ran. That's as much as I can discern from that article.

"....killed when he interrupted a burglary, at his home". Sound familiar?

 

[cafe]

Would you feel the same if the justice system operated in this manner? Do you think thieves should be executed by the penal system? Do you think that people that commit relatively minor, non-violent crimes ought to be executed on the basis that they might, in the future, commit more severe, violent crimes?

 

[GAGE]

Only problem I see with the story, is the thieves are still alive to sue.

 

[jbowen9]

What i think if you get caught 3 times yep because you was too stupid to stop knowing the 3rd time you will seist to exist. 1st time offenders 90 days in jail you get no windows,tv's nothing other than a shower and food. 2nd time 1 year same as above 3rd time pick your way to die firing squad,hanging, or the needle. This goes as you stealing a piece of 5cent of gum or a moutain dew stealing is stealing now the kicker to that is if you are armed or breaking in someone's home skip step 1 and 2 because if you dont care for your life neither should we.