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biophiliac

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Such may be necessary. I just wanted to let her stretch her wings for a bit after spending five days in a little box with her wing taped up. She came out after four hours and went to the cage on her own.
You are in the best position to judge. I don't believe there is only one way.:)

I'm glad to hear every detail!:lol:
 

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You are in the best position to judge. I don't believe there is only one way.:)

I'm glad to hear every detail!:lol:
I hope I am not boring anyone. You are my only audience who shares an interest in these birds!

Rosie is very different from Olive, but understandably so. Not only is she the product of tens of generations of very different selective process but she has also had a much harder life. Unlike Olive, she has lived through stressful circumstances, known starvation, probably seen predators. She gorges herself in the morning because she does not know if the food will be there later on. She is very suspicious of our cat and of humans. Her tameness now seems to me to be more learned helplessness than trust, as given the chance she runs like a mouse, but once held she goes limp and gives up all fight. She seems to enjoy gentle touch after a while, and calms and fluffs her feathers, but she is wary of the approach of the hand.

Olive's indifference toward Rosie at least makes me feel good that I was not depriving her of a life with other birds. But I am also glad they don't bicker at all. I have a suspicion that Rosie will probably eventually bond with Olive and that Olive will stay bonded to me and we will have a love triangle situation. I have had that before when we got a new budgie as a friend with our single tame one some years back. The new untamed bird bonded to the tame bird and the tame bird tolerated the other budgie but preferred to be with people so wherever we went, he'd go and his little one-bird fan club would follow him.
 

biophiliac

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I hope I am not boring anyone. You are my only audience who shares an interest in these birds!
Are you kidding! Of course you're not boring, at least not me!!!

he gorges herself in the morning because she does not know if the food will be there later o
Racing homers are usually trained to come to the feed call and eat up right away, twice a day. They know if they don't eat at 'dinner' time they miss out til next meal. But I agree with @cavemanrich that Rosie was probably released with her mates when the owner died and so experienced some very hard times.

e seems to enjoy gentle touch after a while, and calms and fluffs her feathers, but she is wary of the approach of the hand.
I have noticed that the approach of a hand from above tends to cause avoidance more than say touching a foot or the belly area. Also, I can touch some (while on a perch in the aviary) with my forehead and not get a flight response. Interesting how they interpret the dangerousness of different parts and actions of a human.:D Even my tamest ones that fly to me and land on my head do not enjoy being picked up and held. (Except for Doo, who loves those opportunities to bites and gnaw on me like a puppy.) I think I would not like to be picked up by a giant, even if the giant was my friend.:lau

Please keep the updates coming.:caf
 

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I have no idea what happend here.. It was meant for a pm but then I erased it...or thought I did..:oops::lau
I hope I am not boring anyone. You are my only audience who shares an interest in these birds!

Rosie is very different from Olive, but understandably so. Not only is she the product of tens of generations of very different selective process but she has also had a much harder life. Unlike Olive, she has lived through stressful circumstances, known starvation, probably seen predators. She gorges herself in the morning because she does not know if the food will be there later on. She is very suspicious of our cat and of humans. Her tameness now seems to me to be more learned helplessness than trust, as given the chance she runs like a mouse, but once held she goes limp and gives up all fight. She seems to enjoy gentle touch after a while, and calms and fluffs her feathers, but she is wary of the approach of the hand.

Olive's indifference toward Rosie at least makes me feel good that I was not depriving her of a life with other birds. But I am also glad they don't bicker at all. I have a suspicion that Rosie will probably eventually bond with Olive and that Olive will stay bonded to me and we will have a love triangle situation. I have had that before when we got a new budgie as a friend with our single tame one some years back. The new untamed bird bonded to the tame bird and the tame bird tolerated the other budgie but preferred to be with people so wherever we went, he'd go and his little one-bird fan club would follow him.
I enjoy reading about Olive and now Rosie... and your other critters as well. Keep em comin! :love
I dont have suggestions, other than whats already been suggested. But I sincerely hope Rosie settles in and learns you can be trusted. And I believe she will in time.:hugs

Good morning all! :frow
I'll be out again today. Dad needs me to sit with mom till 4 this evening. Hope y'all have a great day! :love
 

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Are you kidding! Of course you're not boring, at least not me!!!



I have noticed that the approach of a hand from above tends to cause avoidance more than say touching a foot or the belly area.

Please keep the updates coming.:caf

This tends to be typical of almost all fowl, as raptors/predators generally attack from above.
 
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I hope I am not boring anyone. You are my only audience who shares an interest in these birds!

Rosie is very different from Olive, but understandably so. Not only is she the product of tens of generations of very different selective process but she has also had a much harder life. Unlike Olive, she has lived through stressful circumstances, known starvation, probably seen predators. She gorges herself in the morning because she does not know if the food will be there later on. She is very suspicious of our cat and of humans. Her tameness now seems to me to be more learned helplessness than trust, as given the chance she runs like a mouse, but once held she goes limp and gives up all fight. She seems to enjoy gentle touch after a while, and calms and fluffs her feathers, but she is wary of the approach of the hand.

Olive's indifference toward Rosie at least makes me feel good that I was not depriving her of a life with other birds. But I am also glad they don't bicker at all. I have a suspicion that Rosie will probably eventually bond with Olive and that Olive will stay bonded to me and we will have a love triangle situation. I have had that before when we got a new budgie as a friend with our single tame one some years back. The new untamed bird bonded to the tame bird and the tame bird tolerated the other budgie but preferred to be with people so wherever we went, he'd go and his little one-bird fan club would follow him.
I have read, and enjoyed every update! Please don't quit!

It is very interesting how much different Rosy is than Olive. Rosy will pick up behaviors from olive very quickly I'm sure.
 
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