Pigeon Talk

[Old_Strain_Lover]

This is how I have been trying to make my fronts.
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And this is how they should look fitted. Unpainted.
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But this is what's happening.
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Either the dowls are too big or the wood on the top and bottom isn't very good. Idk.

That would work great. I'm not sure exactly how big that is but you can get proper fronts for pigeon nest boxes that just attach to a plastic clip that is screwed in.

Yep, with the picture I can now see clear as day your drill bit is the problem. It's dull and basically tearing through the wood instead of cutting it cleanly. Get yourself a nice sharp new 10mm bit, clamp the piece of wood down securely with a sacrificial board behind it (helps eliminate tearout on the back side), and don't go at it too hard or fast. Let the bit do the work. 118 degree point on the bit works the best in wood... the 135 degree ones can be a bit too aggressive in wood (more suited to metal). It looks like either pine or spruce which you are using, so with a good bit you shouldn't have any problems as it's soft wood.

 

[cavemanrich]

CC I know exactly what is happening here, and do have a possible solution. If you have a vice, hold the wood in it, and then drill out your holes. Also if you can,,,,,, drill out the holes next drill size bigger, (than diameter of dowels)
The vice will allow the hole to be drilled without expansion force caused by drill.
Once assembled, the glue will fill in the minute gap between the dowel, and frame.

The dead bird was very thin and I remember seeing it the previous day looking a bit ill and thinking with surprise I needed to investigate what was going on with "Loper". Fortunately all my birds seem healthy so far despite contact with that bird.

One of the facts about ferals, is their shorter lifespan. This is most likely 98% due to the (non) availability of good nutrition. JMO.
He most likely jumped into your loft as a last effort to get some food,

You've got to be careful with dead ferals. You don't know what finished them off.

I agree,,,, but still think that the poor nutrition is a very common cause of expiration for most of them.

 

[CCUK]

I never thought about it but my brother has a woodworking shop. He makes kitchens and furniture. He will have a pillar drill AND decent drill bits. He could cut and drill the wood in quick time. I can assemble at home. I may see him tomorrow and I'll ask.

 

[biophiliac]

It's always fun to meet a starting fancier! It seems like he has done his research. That is very odd about the feral.

Does your loft seem I empty now? I remember when I sold three birds, (not to @Fields Mountain Farm ) and the coop seemed so much emptyer!

It does seem like it's down to the ideal number. I definitely notice the difference and miss those friendly yb I hand fed. However, I found 3 new viable eggs today and I believe I will let them try to hatch. Hope to get one more dark t-check like the mom that I can keep. The rest I can send to Mr Song's loft(the buyer from my CL ad). He needs a few more ybs even if he doesn't realize it yet.

You've got to be careful with dead ferals. You don't know what finished them off. Good news on the youngsters. They will be a credit to you and the guy and his wife will have a two pairs of very good birds. I understand him wanting doba! I love the colour!

Thanks, on behalf of Doba! She is special to me not only for her color but for all she went through to recover from her injury. I would like to get one clutch from her as well.

 

[itsasmallfarm]

hello everyone am back again with more questions about pigeons.

first off wondering, is it possible to make a almost 100% self-sustaining pigeon system?
like am thinking how feral pigeons have no issue living year around. is it possible for a system with non-feral pigeons?

like am thinking about a system where you could free range? the pigeons let them go out and forage there own food and water like 75% of the time. and have them come back and nest in an area i want them to be. so i could collect the young ones for meat.

 

[Ninjasquirrel]

hello everyone am back again with more questions about pigeons.

first off wondering, is it possible to make a almost 100% self-sustaining pigeon system?
like am thinking how feral pigeons have no issue living year around. is it possible for a system with non-feral pigeons?

like am thinking about a system where you could free range? the pigeons let them go out and forage there own food and water like 75% of the time. and have them come back and nest in an area i want them to be. so i could collect the young ones for meat.

I have a bunch of free range pigeons...for some reason they don't fly. I guess theyre just chicken...

 

[backyard pigeons]

Sounds like something along the lines of adenovirus/adenocoli. It used to only really affect young birds, but nowadays I think it's also affecting old birds too. Not much you can do about the virus part, but the ecoli part is what you need to manage. Having a dirt floor in the loft can make it more difficult. Not sure but you might need to lime the floor heavily. Make sure you keep any ferals away... they are often harboring some nasties which can infect your birds.

Ok thanks. What type of lime? Like is it powder?

It does seem like it's down to the ideal number. I definitely notice the difference and miss those friendly yb I hand fed. However, I found 3 new viable eggs today and I believe I will let them try to hatch. Hope to get one more dark t-check like the mom that I can keep. The rest I can send to Mr Song's loft(the buyer from my CL ad). He needs a few more ybs even if he doesn't realize it yet.


Thanks, on behalf of Doba! She is special to me not only for her color but for all she went through to recover from her injury. I would like to get one clutch from her as well.

haha! I think you'd should let doba hatch a clutch.

hello everyone am back again with more questions about pigeons.

first off wondering, is it possible to make a almost 100% self-sustaining pigeon system?
like am thinking how feral pigeons have no issue living year around. is it possible for a system with non-feral pigeons?

like am thinking about a system where you could free range? the pigeons let them go out and forage there own food and water like 75% of the time. and have them come back and nest in an area i want them to be. so i could collect the young ones for meat.

what type of birds? for meat? I don't think that's gonna work. if you had, say a barn loft, and put racers in it, and gave them a can of whole corn a day,that would be all it takes to keep them close... Dont take any of the young, have a tiny 4 inch by 8inch door for them to get in, (so hawks\owls don't get in) it might work. One year you may have 15, the next 4, then in two years have 60... But if you are taking them for meat, and it's is a real small coop, (compared to a barn loft) they will stick around, but slowly get picked off. Does this help?

 

[itsasmallfarm]

Ok thanks. What type of lime? Like is it powder?
haha! I think you'd should let doba hatch a clutch.

what type of birds? for meat? I don't think that's gonna work. if you had, say a barn loft, and put racers in it, and gave them a can of whole corn a day,that would be all it takes to keep them close... Dont take any of the young, have a tiny 4 inch by 8inch door for them to get in, (so hawks\owls don't get in) it might work. One year you may have 15, the next 4, then in two years have 60... But if you are taking them for meat, and it's is a real small coop, (compared to a barn loft) they will stick around, but slowly get picked off. Does this help?

not sure what type of breed.

am just thinking of maybe creating a loft sort of thing (quite big) so i could raise quite a few and harvest the odd younger ones for meat, to the point of keeping a steady population.

 

[backyard pigeons]

Alright guys! 49 days till october 26th! The Louisville pigeon show! Is anyone planning\hoping to go? I will be there!
I know it's a ways for most... Probably to far for CCUK... @WVduckchick ? Your kinda close, 5 hours maybe? @cavemanrich I bet there will be some white homers, highflyers, ferals and such there!

 

[backyard pigeons]

not sure what type of breed.

am just thinking of maybe creating a loft sort of thing (quite big) so i could raise quite a few and harvest the odd younger ones for meat, to the point of keeping a steady population.

It sounds like a nice sort of thing, but realistically, I don't think you'll be the only one eating them...

ferals are free, but small... If your okay with size, catch some...