Pigeon Talk

[Pigeon28]

Then I don't believe you got PMV from him (if it even is PMV). PMV hits hard and fast and doesn't sit dormant and then pop up in a single bird 2 months later. Years ago I lost almost an entire flock to it, so I am quite familiar with it's progression.

Hmm, well I have no idea then. I’m hoping it doesn’t hit my other birds as hard, they are currently being treated with a 4-1, but with it being bacterial I have to worry about the loft. I scrape it daily, and they get clean water and I clean waterer daily, everything was new when I started. One or 2 birds are having watery droppings and one almost looks like the face is molting? But I have no idea. First time with pigeons, and iv had lots of other birds before but never ran into any illness issues.[/QUOTE]

 

[biophiliac]

Hmm, well I have no idea then. I’m hoping it doesn’t hit my other birds as hard, they are currently being treated with a 4-1, but with it being bacterial I have to worry about the loft. I scrape it daily, and they get clean water and I clean waterer daily, everything was new when I started. One or 2 birds are having watery droppings and one almost looks like the face is molting? But I have no idea. First time with pigeons, and iv had lots of other birds before but never ran into any illness issues.

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Hang in there and don't blame yourself for bad luck. I have broken the rules by allowing feral hens to join my flock w/o quarantine! RAnd still no illness issues. I hope your birds gets well and the others aren't affected.

 

[biophiliac]

Then I don't believe you got PMV from him (if it even is PMV). PMV hits hard and fast and doesn't sit dormant and then pop up in a single bird 2 months later. Years ago I lost almost an entire flock to it, so I am quite familiar with it's progression.

Then could it possibly be paratyphoid/salmonella which can be present wo symptoms and then surface as clinical illness if the birds immune system is weakened?

Hmm, well I have no idea then. I’m hoping it doesn’t hit my other birds as hard, they are currently being treated with a 4-1, but with it being bacterial I have to worry about the loft. I scrape it daily, and they get clean water and I clean waterer daily, everything was new when I started. One or 2 birds are having watery droppings and one almost looks like the face is molting? But I have no idea. First time with pigeons, and iv had lots of other birds before but never ran into any illness issues.

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[Pigeon28]

Hang in there and don't blame yourself for bad luck. I have broken the rules by allowing feral hens to join my flock w/o quarantine! RAnd still no illness issues. I hope your birds gets well and the others aren't affected.
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It’s just that i try and do everything right and this happens. My wife is someone who already leans towards them being dirty and disease carrying and this also just makes her more nervous. It makes me nervous because I love my birds and don’t want them to all die. In the beginning I knew I wanted to loft fly but almost didn’t because I was worried about losing them, but the fact of the matter is, is that I would rather lose them while they are flying and doing what they are supposed to be doing than lose them while they are cooped up in the loft from disease.

Then could it possibly be paratyphoid/salmonella which can be present wo symptoms and then surface as clinical illness if the birds immune system is weakened?

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The reason I thought it was pmv/salmonella was due to the neurological symptoms. I also tried to observe the droppings and some looked like pmv to me (snake like poop on water puddle) but some also seemed to have green (none smelt horrible like some say). I did also add some black oil sunflower seeds to my mix which I thought could be the reason for the greener poop as it said sometimes undigested food will do that? I’m also no expert

 

[backyard pigeons]

Would be for all the birds but says ever 4-6 weeks. So I could bulk order but then I have to worry about storage and it’s always more $

I wouldn't do it... Even if you executive it was PMV. You just can't justify that much for pigeons... I love them, but they also need to be able to get over things on their own.

Tonight I will give you some advice that worked for me. It takes a while to type, but it helped my dying flock of birds once.

and iv had lots of other birds before but never ran into any illness issues.

Pigeons seem more prone to diseases than all game birds. I had quail for years before pigeons. But once I got oiheons, I ran into diseases. That doesn't mean they are gross birds, but just means that they are not ground game birds, but still feed on the ground but don't have the built in immunities.

 

[h2oratt]

I remember you! It was a fantail, right? Feel free to hang out with us, pigeon or not!

I'm glad it found a home, and has a family! Thanks for sharing.

He probably likes it because his parents can't bother him there. They were getting aggressive with him, right?

The baby from the fantail I found and the wild pigeon in Lowe’s

 

[cavemanrich]

h2oratt

Can you post pix of the parents..

 

[Pigeon28]

I wouldn't do it... Even if you executive it was PMV. You just can't justify that much for pigeons... I love them, but they also need to be able to get over things on their own.

Tonight I will give you some advice that worked for me. It takes a while to type, but it helped my dying flock of birds once.

Pigeons seem more prone to diseases than all game birds. I had quail for years before pigeons. But once I got oiheons, I ran into diseases. That doesn't mean they are gross birds, but just means that they are not ground game birds, but still feed on the ground but don't have the built in immunities.

That would be very much appreciated

 

[h2oratt]

h2oratt

Can you post pix of the parents..

My friend has them. I will ask for pictures. I had a bunch of the male I found. I posted them in this thread.

 

[biophiliac]

Just to clarify, PMV = Paramyxovirus, a viral infection and Salmonella = Paratyphoid, a bacterial infection.