Please help! New to hatching! Day 27 and no pips!

[bluekii]

@Miss Lydia @DuckLady @Pyxis @happy duck

i'm sorry to tag, but I really need help, i honestly don't know what to do. they aren't moving as much as they were. ​

 

[Pyxis]

Candle and see if there are any internal pips; they might be having some trouble.

 

[bluekii]

Candle and see if there are any internal pips; they might be having some trouble.

Thank you for replying on the thread- I've already candled and there's no internal pips, I don't know how to help them out.​

 

[Pyxis]

Thank you for replying on the thread- I've already candled and there's no internal pips, I don't know how to help them out.​

Have you checked the eggs over to look for any areas of 'bruising' on the shells anywhere that may indicate an attempt to internally pip away from the air cell?

Honestly sometimes it can be hard to tell when Calls have internally pipped because of the short beaks, too. I often will do a safety hole even if I don't see a distinct beak in the air cell, and it turns out that they did internally pip and I just didn't see it. But that's your call to make based on what you're seeing when you candle.

 

[bluekii]

Have you checked the eggs over to look for any areas of 'bruising' on the shells anywhere that may indicate an attempt to internally pip away from the air cell?

Honestly sometimes it can be hard to tell when Calls have internally pipped because of the short beaks, too. I often will do a safety hole even if I don't see a distinct beak in the air cell, and it turns out that they did internally pip and I just didn't see it. But that's your call to make based on what you're seeing when you candle.

There's no bruising on the egg shells at all.

They are still alive in the shell but they were moving so much for the past 3 days and now there's nothing so I'm assuming they're getting tired and are having trouble getting through the air cell.

 

[Pyxis]

There's no bruising on the egg shells at all.

They are still alive in the shell but they were moving so much for the past 3 days and now there's nothing so I'm assuming they're getting tired and are having trouble getting through the air cell.

I would consider doing a safety hole or maybe even a small hole big enough for you to see into the air cell, since it sounds like they are getting weaker now.

 

[bluekii]

I would consider doing a safety hole or maybe even a small hole big enough for you to see into the air cell, since it sounds like they are getting weaker now.

We have made a fair sized hole (size of a small pea) and pierced the air cell - there was no pip at all - and he is moving around like crazy now.

Upped the humidity and placed some drops of water into the shell for humidity. Just waiting to see what happens now...

Not done this for any of the others yet just incase it wasn't the right thing to do.

Temperature is at 36.5°C.​

 

[Pyxis]

We have made a fair sized hole (size of a small pea) and pierced the air cell - there was no pip at all - and he is moving around like crazy now.

Upped the humidity and placed some drops of water into the shell for humidity. Just waiting to see what happens now...

Not done this for any of the others yet just incase it wasn't the right thing to do.

Temperature is at 36.5°C.​

The hole in the air cell won't hurt anything this close to when it should be hatching, thankfully. I've done a hole a little early a time or two when an egg was running late, and the eggs always went on to hatch fine. Were you perhaps able to get some coconut oil or something on the internal membrane to keep it moist, and also to be able to see the duckling to see if it's positioned correctly?

36.5 C is low, the temperature should be 37.5 C.

 

[bluekii]

The hole in the air cell won't hurt anything this close to when it should be hatching, thankfully. I've done a hole a little early a time or two when an egg was running late, and the eggs always went on to hatch fine. Were you perhaps able to get some coconut oil or something on the internal membrane to keep it moist, and also to be able to see the duckling to see if it's positioned correctly?

36.5 C is low, the temperature should be 37.5 C.

Will put some coconut oil on the membrane, and I couldn't see the position of the duckling, but I did see some red veins.

I had the temperature at that level because I heard you were meant to down the temperature during lockdown by 1 degrees.

 

[Pyxis]

I had the temperature at that level because I heard you were meant to down the temperature during lockdown by 1 degrees.

I've seen that around too, but there's no real need to do it (I never have) and the lower temperature probably actually slows down the hatch.