Post Phoenix Pics Please

[nicalandia]

Looks birchen to me.

True, the white rooster also looks like a dominant white Birchen rooster to me,

 

[stevearino]

Is Birchen a variety of the silver class? It looks somewhat similar in the pictures I google.

 

[onagadori]

True, the white rooster also looks like a dominant white Birchen rooster to me,

Yes, he does look birchen.

 

[onagadori]

Is Birchen a variety of the silver class?  It looks somewhat similar in the pictures I google.

Birchen is a completely different pattern than duckwing (silver) Silver just tells what color they are as far as red pigment or the absence of it. They are either red, gold, silver, cream, etc. But then they have patterns as well. Birchen or duckwing are bases. There are differences that you can easily see. Duckwings are duck wing (meaning they have the colored wing triangle. Birchens are crow wing, or the wings are black. Birchens have lacing on the breast, duckwings don't. (talking about true birchen, not extended black without modifiers.)

Example. This is a barred phoenix bird. He has a birchen base which you can see by the fact that he has black wings, and lacing on the chest.

note the black wings..


this rooster is a duckwing. See the white on the wing.. Could be red, or gold, but is a duckwing pattern.

I could go on, but the hens are very much different as well. Do the google search and look at the hens. There are silver duckwing and silver birchens. But there are also gold duckwings or golden birchens, etc.

 

[nicalandia]

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WOW.. that is one Impressive looking bird, I have never seen such a weird barring expression, USUALLY, the sex linked barring gene(even in heterozygous form) expresses itself on the entire body, but this bird shows somewhat limited expression

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

Looks birchen to me.

bout to say that too, looked like a birchen...

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

WOW.. that is one Impressive looking bird, I have never seen such a weird barring expression, USUALLY, the sex linked barring gene(even in heterozygous form) expresses itself on the entire body, but this bird shows somewhat limited expression

he is nice,
must be a phoenix thing, here's one I have, silver duckwing, but carrys birchen ( thus all the lacing)

looks very similar, that's one of his hens he made the year before too, she even is sort of half and half, got to be something to do with the birchen lacing??






better side angle of the girl, all the pullets off him look the same as her.... any thoughts?

 

[onagadori]

he is nice, must be a phoenix thing, here's one I have, silver duckwing, but carrys birchen ( thus all the lacing) looks very similar, that's one of his hens he made the year before too, she even is sort of half and half, got to be something to do with the birchen lacing?? better side angle of the girl, all the pullets off him look the same as her.... any thoughts?

I might be crazy on this one, but It looks like a pattern gene at work to me. Or a combination of genes. What is his breeding?

 

[onagadori]

he is nice, must be a phoenix thing, here's one I have, silver duckwing, but carrys birchen ( thus all the lacing) looks very similar, that's one of his hens he made the year before too, she even is sort of half and half, got to be something to do with the birchen lacing?? better side angle of the girl, all the pullets off him look the same as her.... any thoughts?

I might be crazy on this one, but It looks like a pattern gene at work to me. Or a combination of genes. What is his breeding?

 

[onagadori]

WOW.. that is one Impressive looking bird, I have never seen such a weird barring expression, USUALLY, the sex linked barring gene(even in heterozygous form) expresses itself on the entire body, but this bird shows somewhat limited expression

On mine, I figured it had something to do with the breeding. My blacks and blues are extended black, but also have ginger and other things in them. I bred blue birchen hens to the barred roo and got this little guy. I also ended up with blues that didn't bar. It seemed like they all were only barred in the sex feathering when crossed with the blue line. I don't know why. According to observation, expression of certain genes is altered by the blue gene. Same on ginger and cream. The feathers appear barred, but only in the sex feathering. Weird. Even my blue barreds are only barred in the sex feathering on the hens and roos.