Post Phoenix Pics Please

[extraordinaryfowl]

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Thanks.. I love him to pieces.. ONLY thing that puzzles me is that I get a few black chicks with yellow legs...? They are beautiful, but I can't figure that out unless it comes from the yoko in the background.. So a peacomb black yellow legged bird would be a black yokohama??? right?

Sounds like it. I know that White Onagadori with yellow legs were supposed to have existed in Japan - If you don't mind me asking, what bird did you use to get the black color originally?

 

[onagadori]

sumatra...../yoko/phoenix nm

 

[extraordinaryfowl]

Did you then back-cross those onto your phoenix?

 

[onagadori]

yes, at least 12 times back and then started breeding them to each other to try and get color back.

 

[extraordinaryfowl]

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Wow, that's quite a few generations. Cy has been working on blue bantams, I believe he is probably on the 12-15 generation of back-crossing onto his white bantam pullets.

I got a rooster from him a year ago that came from one of his self-blue bantams on a white bantam pullet, and the rooster turned out black with silver hackles and golden saddles, with a strip of black down the center, much like the rooster in the black phoenix project posted a few posts back - any idea genetically what happened there?

 

[onagadori]

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Wow, that's quite a few generations. Cy has been working on blue bantams, I believe he is probably on the 12-15 generation of back-crossing onto his white bantam pullets.

I got a rooster from him a year ago that came from one of his self-blue bantams on a white bantam pullet, and the rooster turned out black with silver hackles and golden saddles, with a strip of black down the center, much like the rooster in the black phoenix project posted a few posts back - any idea genetically what happened there?

aparently the whites are duckwings underneath and now you have a duckwing carrying a melanizer mix. The black won't cover it for that many generations. Same problem I have.

 

[onagadori]

if you can't get a solid black, you have to breed brother to sister and select the black ones out..
of course it may take a hundred birds to get a good one.

 

[Toni-Marie]

I always called it ghost barring......It's from the Jungle fowl way back....I've studied this before with some of the hybrids I raised over the years...I have a gold like that now that almost looks like a crele but the barring is only on the neck and saddles...Very odd to say the least....Interesting for sure....Toni-Marie

 

[hdowden]

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Wow, that's quite a few generations. Cy has been working on blue bantams, I believe he is probably on the 12-15 generation of back-crossing onto his white bantam pullets.

I got a rooster from him a year ago that came from one of his self-blue bantams on a white bantam pullet, and the rooster turned out black with silver hackles and golden saddles, with a strip of black down the center, much like the rooster in the black phoenix project posted a few posts back - any idea genetically what happened there?

do you have any pics of him?

 

[hdowden]

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do you have any pics of this chicken? if so can you please post pics