Prolapsed Penis Discussion

[chickens really]

You're missing the point I think. You are basing your advice on the one prolapse that you treated. You treated with Vaseline for some number of days, it did not go back in so you cut him loose and dealt with it two months later. Only the tip died, he lived, and he can still breed. Do you really want to claim that as a valid treatment plan? What are you gonna say to someone when their duck dies from sepsis from using you method?

How many have you treated..? I'm rather curious..?

 

[casportpony]

I understand that. I just don't understand how you can say a live duck is a fail. That's what I'm confused about. I said nothing about it getting septic. I understand the danger of that.
All I asked was how a duck, who is alive and healthy, is considered a fail just because he had to get his penis trimmed so it would go back inside.

If I said to someone "my chick had an open fracture of the wing, so I applied Vaseline (or whatever), but two months later I had to amputate because the wing got necrotic and died", do you consider that a treatment success just because the chick is alive? To me, a better treatment plan is one where the chick or duck doesn't lose it's wing or part of the penis.

Perhaps next time Shannon recommends her treatment she should point the to here posts and let people decide if they want to follow her instructions or not.

 

[casportpony]

How many have you treated..? I'm rather curious..?

Three.

 

[chickens really]

If I said to someone "my chick had an open fracture of the wing, so I applied Vaseline (or whatever), but two months later I had to amputate because the wing got necrotic and died", do you consider that a treatment success just because the chick is alive? To me, a better treatment plan is one where the chick or duck doesn't lose it's wing or part of the penis.

Perhaps next time Shannon recommends her treatment she should point the to here posts and let people decide if they want to follow her instructions or not.

Now your just being rediculous..Apples and oranges your referring too. Your too defensive. And I'm a bit upset that you call Casanovas situation as unsuccessful. He is alive, healthy and productive.

Three.

Then why haven't you used your experiences...

 

[Cayuga momma]

If I said to someone "my chick had an open fracture of the wing, so I applied Vaseline (or whatever), but two months later I had to amputate because the wing got necrotic and died", do you consider that a treatment success just because the chick is alive? To me, a better treatment plan is one where the chick or duck doesn't lose it's wing or part of the penis.

Perhaps next time Shannon recommends her treatment she should point the to here posts and let people decide if they want to follow her instructions or not.

Ok, first off, my post has nothing to do with Chickens really. Please don't include me in your dispute.

Second off, of course I wouldn't want my chicken to have to get her wing amputated. I wouldn't want my duck to get his penis snipped either.

My response is to your response:

Successful to me means healed and no amputation in less than two weeks, not amputation. Amputation = Fail. Death = fail.

I agree death equals fail, but to tell people that had to get their ducks penis snipped off, that they failed is really disheartening.

 

[casportpony]

And I'm a bit upset that you call Casanovas situation as unsuccessful. He is alive, healthy and productive.

Sorry you are upset, but I think your prolapse treatment advice with regards to the Vaseline is not good advice and that it could do more harm than good. Your advice about putting them in a clean cage and keeping them away from the other ducks is good though.

 

[chickens really]

Sorry you are upset, but I think your prolapse treatment advice with regards to the Vaseline is not good advice and that it could do more harm than good. Your advice about putting them in a clean cage and keeping them away from the other ducks is good though.

The Vet recommended the Vaseline so get over it already. It helped keep the moisture in the good part of his Penis do you not comprehend what I'm saying?...

 

[casportpony]

Second off, of course I wouldn't want my chicken to have to get her wing amputated. I wouldn't want my duck to get his penis snipped either.

No, of course not, so advice to people should be advice that provides the best possible outcome, yes?

I agree death equals fail, but to tell people that had to get their ducks penis snipped off, that they failed is really disheartening.

My issue is that the advice given did not prevent the subsequent amputation. Perhaps if it had been treated differently the outcome would have been different.

The Vet recommended the Vaseline so get over it already. It helped keep the moisture in the good part of his Penis do you not comprehend what I'm saying?...

I understand that you applied it for some amount of days but it still needed to be amputated. Next time you suggest it I will point people to your two posts that describe your treatment.

 

[casportpony]

Everyone, I am all for a good debate like this.

 

[WVduckchick]

Here's my two cents, for free. lol

Shannon's information is valuable, as to the fact that he can still fertilize the hens, and that he can even still perform! And that he is still alive, and didn't get infected. Especially in the extreme cold temperatures of her area (hmmm, what time of year did it happen? I don't know.) Those are all great things.

Maybe the Vaseline aided his eventual recovery - nobody knows whether it helped or hindered. So the choice of using Vaseline, in my opinion, is up to any owner. I still don't understand why a vet said to use it, but that's not my place to question.

The case also showed us that some can go months without solution, but also without infection. But I do think a lot of luck happened. Why didn't his get infected? Because he is well taken care of overall? Important points! Infection could have easily happened... I mean its a body part that is meant to be "inside" the body. Any number of things could have happened to it while it was hanging out.

Now, would I recommend that someone wait 2 months, let it dangle, "maybe" it will go back in, or say that they can just cut it off later with no problem?? Absolutely not. But its all still useful information for the situations that arise here. I just think it needs to be shared with full understanding, and not "do it this way because it worked for me" type of attitudes. We're here to help others, yes?