Question on GMO feed

[Spifflove]

If any of you wish to see what the world's economy and political scene will look like with burned out hippies running things, the terror produced by (and finally extended to) French Revolutionary Robes Pierre, or the current poverty in Zimbabwe are both good places to start. Zimbabwe was the bread basket of Africa until 12-31 1987 when Robert Mugabe and the opposition party in a backroom deal merged into one party. Mugabe then announced that he was abolishing the position of Prime Minister and created the office of President and Vice President. Mugabe assumed the office of President and his former rival took on the position of Vice-President.

Next Mugabe announced a land reform program that resulted in the proliferation of the same kind of small time low productivity agriculture that resulted in the famine that helped spark the French Revolution. Whether the Queen of France said the quote attributed to her or not is immaterial to the GMO debate, but the strife, hunger, unrest, and starvation that 18Th Century use-funk agricultural practices helped produce in France are not immaterial to the GMO debate.

Any denial that Antoinette did or did not say "Let them eat Cake!" is simply an over ripe red herring used here to distract our attention. The real issue behind the GMO debate is what do you want to do, or do you intend to do anything to alleviate world hangar and mass starvation? What is your thoughts on this issue? It is the only issue that matters.




Here is the kind of world that the anti-GMO people have in store for us.

Zimbabwe lost its ability to export foods because its farmers were genocided and the land redistributed to non-farmers. This was done under globalist Henry Kissinger. This same process is occuring in South Africa as their agricultural base is being destroyed. I will not link to that information here because it is too dark a subject. Anyone who wishes to go down that rabbit hole just search for South African Farmer [Beor] genocide mutilated or similiar terms.

Its the same old problem-reaction-solution. Corporatism/communism creates a crisis then offers a solution, in this case GMO.

The same technique was used in France to forment the French revolution. The globalists knew the people wanted revolution and a country just like the U.S. so instead of allowing that to naturally occur they redirected that energy to create the nightmare authoritarian state that was so bad it finally ended with a return to monarchy under Napoleon.

 

[Bear Foot Farm]

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That's funny , considering that when I asked you to show your proof GMO's are harmful, you posted three sites that never even mentioned GMO's

 

[Spifflove]

LOL
That's funny , considering that when I asked you to show your proof GMO's are harmful, you posted three sites that never even mentioned GMO's

They mentioned the harm. Now if you want to discuss the study itself I will happily go over it with you. However what I will not do is bother to post something where you reply "but this GMO scientist said the study is not valid because it was longer duration than Monsanto's study."

 

[Bear Foot Farm]

Quote: NO farmer plants GMO's without knowing it, because of the agreements they have to sign to buy the seed

I don't really care if they label it or not, but the REALITY is a few words saying "MAY contain GMO's" is all you'll ever see.

Anything else would require the nearly impossible task of totally seperating the harvest, storage and transport of GMO and non GMO products.
That would cause food prices to at least double

And there has STILL been no proof they are harmful.
Everyone just repeats the same discredited studies as evidence.

 

[Bear Foot Farm]

Bear, what proof would count as proof for you? How I wish I could see this through your eyes. The way you do, it would really be interesting.

An actual peer reviewed study, with repeatable results.
All I keep seeing offered is the same old junk science from the same agenda driven crowd, that makes lots of allegations, but never any real conclusive data.

Show me ONE that hasn't already been discredited.
No one has been able to so far

 

[chickengeorgeto]

... considering that when I asked you to show your proof GMO's are harmful, you posted three sites that never even mentioned GMO's

Viewing the links posted by the others, proves that you are not afraid to consider all points of view. The other side however is not so willing or else they could verbalize a meaningful objection to your posts and not be forced by facts to fall back on the tired old and emotional, "because I say it is so makes it so," boiler plate argument.

 

[Bear Foot Farm]

They mentioned the harm. Now if you want to discuss the study itself I will happily go over it with you. However what I will not do is bother to post something where you reply "but this GMO scientist said the study is not valid because it was longer duration than Monsanto's study."

They mentioned many things, but NOT in relation to GMO's
Thats YOUR false conclusion.
Just admit you have NO real proof to offer, because if you did, you would have done it long ago

 

[Spifflove]

They mentioned many things, but NOT in relation to GMO's
Thats YOUR false conclusion.
Just admit you have NO real proof to offer, because if you did, you would have done it long ago

Well then, If I drive down the road and it is blocked by a fallen tree I guess that does not PROVE the wind. After all you can't see the wind. It must not be real.

 

[chickengeorgeto]

This was done under globalist Henry Kissinger. This same process is occuring in South Africa as their agricultural base is being destroyed.

Here is the 1961-2012 corn production figures for Zimbabwe.
http://www.indexmundi.com/agriculture/?country=zw&commodity=corn&graph=production
Notice from the graph that when Mugabe assumed power effective 01/01/1988 that corn production plummeted from a high of 2,950,000 metric tons in 1984 to a low of 360,000 metric tons in 1991. I also call an 81.9% reduction in production real destruction. Despite modest increases in the 2011 and 2012 corn crop, yields today are currently less than they were in 1961 during a civil war. How is food production in Zimbabwe being effected by Kissinger. Don't even bother to answer if you are going to say "Because I said it is."

 

[chickengeorgeto]

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... If ...the road and it is blocked by a fallen tree I guess that does not PROVE the wind.[?} After all you can't see the wind. It must not be

But there are other human senses that can detect the wind, so this example is not a valid argument.