Re: feed causing salmonella in chickens and their eggs.

[elmo]

I read that the most common cause of salmonella infection in flocks is from rodent droppings in the feed. This could happen to any of us, too, if we don't keep our feed in a secure container.

http://www.accuweather.com/blogs/news/story/35787/iowas-wet-summer-may-have-help.asp

 

[woodmort]

Cripe another "the sky is falling" thread and a chance for "holy than thou" posts. My understanding is that the contaminate feed was the result of poor quality control in the process by which the feed at two farms was handled allowing rat feces to get in the feed coupled with really lousy conditions at the farms. This was not a commercial feed operation per se but an "in house" processor--in short it was a giant "doing my own feed mixing" operation. Sure your feed could become contaminated with salmonella, pesticides, antibiotics or parts of human anatomy but you could also be hit on the head with a meteor--stop worrying, know your sources and eat your eggs. From a 72 -year prospective I can tell you that there are a lot of things to worry about and if you let them run your life, you'll never do anything.

As a case in point: My mother worried to the point of hysteria about dying from drowning, snake bite or in an automobile accident. She passed quietly in bed at 99.

 

[hudsonhousechicks]

I thought the feed was contaminated with rat/rodent poo.
Maybe not.
Does rodent poo have salmonella?

Speaking of which....I have to go feed the girls!

 

[alicefelldown]

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Pasteurization uses heat to kill the salmonella bacteria and renders eggs that are completely safe to eat. Heat pasteurization has been used for over one hundred years and pasteurized eggs are as safe as pasteurized milk.

http://www.iep.utm.edu/fallacy/

 

[moetrout]

How safe is pasturized milk......anyone really know???

 

[elmo]

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Yes, that's how all that peanut butter got contaminated with salmonella, too. Rodent droppings.

 

[drumstick diva]

Isn't it possible tho to have a glitch in pastuerization by human or machine error ie., not correct temperature etc? This would cause the eggs NOT to be safe anyway.

I hybridize streptocarpus plants and pasteurize peat moss in the oven ( heat to 180 degrees and keep it there 30 minutes) as I was instructed by plant "experts". Too low or too high temp/time can skew the results. Of course I am not a highly technical, calibrated machine that they must use for eggs, milk products etc..

 

[Organics North]

IMO pasteurization is the opposite direction we need to go...

We will continue bad practices and sterilize our way out of it?????

Step one to comprehending organics and soil. Is to not kill the bacteria! But create an environment for beneficial bacteria to thrive, then mother nature keeps the pathogens at bay. Natural balance is the way it was designed.. the way it is meant to be.. One of these days us humans playing god is going to bite us on the butt good...

By trying to fight the inevitable we are killing all microbes good and bad. (Good ones may have health benefits we do not even understand yet.) Bad ones well.... Living creatures have the drive to survive.. I highly doubt we will out smart mother nature for long.

Why not solve the problem at the root... A sloppy factory. Negligent management.. And a system that pushes the birds to far.

UGGG pasteurization.. It makes me think of milk and what has happened to the dairy industry....

ON

 

[Ariel301]

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Not terribly. Put a bottle of pasteurized milk and a bottle of raw milk side by side on your counter and see which goes bad first. Even doctors are starting to say now that pasteurized milk is bad for you. The heat makes many of the nutrients unusable, contributing to diabetes and osteoporosis, and who knows what else.

 

[Luke13:34]

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Unfortunately, my raw milk supplier stopped selling for the summer. Reeeeally hoping he starts up again soon.