Retrievers vs Spaniels!

[ShrekDawg]

Definitely!

I need one lol

 

[fluffycrow]

I need one lol

You do!

 

[ShrekDawg]

You do!

 

[MGG]

Most ethical breeders wont let a puppy go at 7 weeks. We wouldnt have gotten Denver at 8 weeks unless she was the one jumping out of the gates...

All the breeders we've ever bought from were willing to sell them at seven. I think they usually keep puppies until eight for vaccinations or something but it's really not necessary.
Puppies should be fully weaned by 5-6 weeks, and the sixth week is necessary for them to learn proper dog behaviour. Dogs taken younger than six weeks haven't adequately learned to be a dog. That's why people that bottle feed rescue dogs have issues breeding them later.
Taken any later than the end of the seventh week and there will be at least one very dominant dog, and at least one wallflower dog.
And all the dogs in between will start to develop weird behavioral issues and fears quickly. At the beginning of the seventh week all of the dogs will be pretty much equal and moldable. They can and should start formal training by eight weeks and know most of the basic commands reliably by twelve weeks.
Lots of people think that's crazy but starting them young is the best. They're completely capable of learning and develop a better bond with their owners than dogs taken later.

8 weeks is ok but I would not buy one that old personally. We've seen it in our litters and by eight weeks it's really obvious what ones are going to be problem dogs. You might get lucky but you'll probably have to work around some other issues from being in the litter extra, at least at first.

Totally understandable! And oh wow that’s annoying hahah he just gets too excited and jumpy or something? Brew still jumps but only like once or twice now and he calms down after a few minutes. We’ve worked hard on it but he keeps doing it. There’s one thing I haven’t tried yet that I’m going to.

He runs all over the place and jumps up on everything constantly. He also will grab up things he shouldn't have the whole time.

What all have you tried? On an adult dog a sharp knee to the chest will cure them of it one or two times. You'll have to find some other people to come over and do it or he'll learn he only had to stay off for you. Big dogs are tough and it won't really hurt him. With a puppy you just flip them over a couple times by catching them under their chin with your hand.
There's some things that are just best fixed with a physical discipline. Our dogs learned not to jump up as little puppies and have never done it since.
I was dog sitting a big poodle lab mix and he had an awful habit of jumping up, he was huge too so it was dangerous. In the week I watched him I fixed him just kneeing him in the chest every time. I had my sister and some friends come over and do it too if need be, and when the owner came back he was so excited he paid me. He said even the "trainer" couldn't get him to stop.
That was over a year ago and I was just at his house yesterday and he said the dog still has never done it again. The dog is really cute, I'll have to see if I can find a pic.

Yeah true and a lot now are keeping them till 10-12 weeks even which I think is a little late but idk. But a lot of the field dog breeders are still letting them go at 7-8 weeks

The field trialers know it's best to start a pup at seven weeks too. They've been doing it for years.

 

[ShrekDawg]

All the breeders we've ever bought from were willing to sell them at seven. I think they usually keep puppies until eight for vaccinations or something but it's really not necessary.
Puppies should be fully weaned by 5-6 weeks, and the sixth week is necessary for them to learn proper dog behaviour. Dogs taken younger than six weeks haven't adequately learned to be a dog. That's why people that bottle feed rescue dogs have issues breeding them later.
Taken any later than the end of the seventh week and there will be at least one very dominant dog, and at least one wallflower dog.
And all the dogs in between will start to develop weird behavioral issues and fears quickly. At the beginning of the seventh week all of the dogs will be pretty much equal and moldable. They can and should start formal training by eight weeks and know most of the basic commands reliably by twelve weeks.
Lots of people think that's crazy but starting them young is the best. They're completely capable of learning and develop a better bond with their owners than dogs taken later.

8 weeks is ok but I would not buy one that old personally. We've seen it in our litters and by eight weeks it's really obvious what ones are going to be problem dogs. You might get lucky but you'll probably have to work around some other issues from being in the litter extra, at least at first.

He runs all over the place and jumps up on everything constantly. He also will grab up things he shouldn't have the whole time.

What all have you tried? On an adult dog a sharp knee to the chest will cure them of it one or two times. You'll have to find some other people to come over and do it or he'll learn he only had to stay off for you. Big dogs are tough and it won't really hurt him. With a puppy you just flip them over a couple times by catching them under their chin with your hand.
There's some things that are just best fixed with a physical discipline. Our dogs learned not to jump up as little puppies and have never done it since.
I was dog sitting a big poodle lab mix and he had an awful habit of jumping up, he was huge too so it was dangerous. In the week I watched him I fixed him just kneeing him in the chest every time. I had my sister and some friends come over and do it too if need be, and when the owner came back he was so excited he paid me. He said even the "trainer" couldn't get him to stop.
That was over a year ago and I was just at his house yesterday and he said the dog still has never done it again. The dog is really cute, I'll have to see if I can find a pic.

The field trialers know it's best to start a pup at seven weeks too. They've been doing it for years.

If they’re well bred though, shouldn’t they all be pretty much equal temperaments and stuff anyways? Can’t imagine they’d be that different maybe they are though, idk. A lot of places though, like my state, have laws about when the puppies can be sold too. Here it’s 8 weeks. If it works for you and the triallers and everyone though that’s awesome.

And wow that dog sounds really annoying LOL

And with Brew I’ve tried turning around and ignoring him, leashing him so I can pull him down, telling him sit, a stern NO!, etc. but nothing seems to work. I can’t remember if I have tried the knee thing or not. I wanna say I have and he didn’t care but I’m not sure. I might have to start trying that. Also he climbs on me when I’m sitting sometimes too so I feel like that might be hindering our progress? I should probably start discouraging that too cause I feel like that’s inconsistent and giving him mixed signals? I was going to try using his e collar too but idk if it would work. I feel like it would. I think I’ve used it before actually and it worked really well but I haven’t since so he still jumps. The issue is you can’t really correct him after he jumps because then he’s already done it and possibly scratched someone or whatever. That’s awesome you cured that other dog though!! I’d love pictures.

 

[ShrekDawg]

I wish Labs were smaller because they’re otherwise perfect maybe a female would be a little smaller???

 

[Evadig]

Spaniels because my dog is a Cocker Spaniel

 

[ShrekDawg]

Spaniels because my dog is a Cocker Spaniel

Is that him in your PFP? So adorable!!!

 

[Evadig]

I wish Labs were smaller because they’re otherwise perfect maybe a female would be a little smaller???

Depends, we used to have a lab and she was about 2.5 feet tall at the shoulders if I remember right.

 

[Evadig]

Is that him in your PFP? So adorable!!!

It’s a girl, that’s where my username comes from