RIR girls????

But some of what I read said they are completely RIR, just selected for differently.....so why are they called production reds? Again- there are different types of german shepherds, but all are genetically german shepherds.
 
Hmm,really?
Well I just cant see how they are rirs,and rirs are complete differently bred,well I should just research more...
 
Thanks for the conversation! Lots of good info. I have a childhood love of RIRs. One of those visceral things. I am sure the hens we had were not fancy or heritage. Probably production hens.

From what I read, the production rir are genetically RIRs, just a variation selected for production rather than size and color. That works for me. Like I said, my dogs would be considered ugly and most definitely built wrong by some in the show field, but they work their legs off! I appreciate balanced utility animals. I will get some more I am sure and will probably look for a breeder who breeds a little more towards the production side.

I also have 3 red star hens and wont get any more even though they are fantastic egg layers. Their eggs are too big, and they are too small. I worry about their health. They did put weight on after we got them--they have adapted well to free ranging--except all 3 got bumble foot at the beginning of the winter. I take that as weakness. We have 9 of their eggs with the barred rock roo in the incubator and look forward to seeing what we get.

I got my 3 from a breeder in NJ. I have no idea where they got their original stock from. No sign of broodiness...but one of my BOs went broody and did a fantastic mommy job.

Attitude wise--they are a bit bossy, but man, when the Red Stars came in, one schooled everyone! She kicked the lead RIR's butt and everyone else backed off. My rirs are not mean at all, but not friendly either.

You're welcome. Production Reds are mostly genetically RIRs, although as I said in my post, there is a smidgen of Leghorn in their background as well to help boost egg production. Red Star is one of a number of labels under which some hatcheries (Murray McMurray for example) market their Red Sex Links. If you loved the laying ability of Red Sex Links (Red Stars), you might want to give Black Sex Links (Black Stars) a try. I've had both sex link varieties (still have Black Sex Links) and the Blacks are typically a little more robust and hardier than the Reds, probably due to the robustness of the Barred Rock hens that are used in the cross with the RIR roosters. Like Red Stars, Black Stars are egg laying machines, and my Blacks have slightly outlayed my Reds in really cold winter weather. Also, I have found the Black Sex Links to typically be friendlier and more docile than the Red Sex Links.
 
But some of what I read said they are completely RIR, just selected for differently.....so why are they called production reds?  Again- there are different types of german shepherds, but all are genetically german shepherds.


Just read your question.
It seems they don't really know what their talking about,trust ne,if they qere rirs,I bet they'd be called that,
 
Where did you read "Their completely " and is this true Michael Oshay??
 
alright...finished that thread....more confused than before. I am going to keep calling my girls rhode island reds lol.
 
The original Production Red was a egg production version of a Rhode Island Red bred solely from a Rhode Island Red (hence the name Production Red) later on some Leghorn blood was added to increase egg production.
Today there are many crosses that are know as a Production Red and it seems that every hatchery has there own cross that they call a "Production Red".

There are/were a few people in the Rhode Island Red Club that has done a tone of research on not only the R.I. Red but also the Production Red.
The information that I have posted comes not only from there research but mine also.


The OP's birds are production reds...
 
I am still somewhat confused by the terms. But I can see how one breed can have been split with no out crossing by selective breeding for the desired trait.
Another chicken that was bred solely from the Rhode Island Red is the New Hampshire.
The breeders of the New Hampshire wanted a meat type fowl so they started breeding the R.I. Red for a more faster meat production.
 

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