Shadrach's Ex Battery and Rescued chickens thread.

[Sally PB]

I really must find the nipples I have some good old yogurt containers with lids that will be perfect for water

In case you didn't know... You need to drill a hole in the top, of on the side near the top, to break the vacuum seal. Or maybe cutting a small notch in the rim would work...?

 

[Marie2020]

In case you didn't know... You need to drill a hole in the top, of on the side near the top, to break the vacuum seal. Or maybe cutting a small notch in the rim would work...?

Thank you

 

[Marie2020]

Good night my battery chickens friends

@shadach
I left you a message in maryjanet s thread. You are right about the fermented feed. Its softened the shells

 

[RoyalChick]

It does give a better idea of how dark it is when some hens are still eating and drinking which is what I wanted to show.

Yes. It achieved that well.

 

[MaryJanet]

That Aristotle knew a thing or two. Shame so few paid attention to him while he was alive.

Imagine how much inspiring thinking has been lost throughout history and all the names we don't know.

 

[JacinLarkwell]

Hopefully these are viewable if you click on them for a full sized image.

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Is that the future tree hugger again?

 

[pennyJo1960]

I really must find the nipples I have some good old yogurt containers with lids that will be perfect for water

Not sure what Size yogurt you get. I use 5 gallon buckets for my large birds and banty.. The small one I had 4 silkie
at the time .. A day in the tractor I had to refill it.

 

[Shadrach]

I've been trying to find out what are the standard vaccinations for UK battery chickens. It seems there is no standard as such and there is some variation.
These seem to be the most common.
Looks okay doesn't it. They've got the important ones covered.
So when the rescue concerns tell people the hens they get are vaccinated at the batteries there is no need to worry right. I mean all that inconvenient quarantine stuff can be ignored because the hens are vaccinated right.
Wrong. Not just a bit wrong seriously criminally negligent wrong imo.

Mareks disease
Salmonella Enteritidis
Coccidiosis
Infectious Bursal disease
Infectious Bronchitis (various strains)
Newcastle disease
Infectious Laryngotracheitis
Egg drop syndrome

I haven't stripped down each vaccine. I don't need to. I just need a basic understanding of how vaccines work and a little bit of research on one or two.
The vaccine for Marecks disease for example. It doesn't prevent a chicken from being infected with Marecks disease, it just prevents a high proportion of the getting to sick to lay eggs and die from it. Thing is, once a chicken is infected with Marecks disease it carries that disease for life and consequently has the potenial to pass the disease on for life.

From everything I've read the same applies for Newcastles disease. Once infected the chicken is a carrier for life.

Next add to this that there are different strains of the various diseases and even the best vaccines only cover a small range of these strains.
It's great having a chicken vaccinated for say the local strain of Coccidiosis but move that chicken to another area where the strain is different and the vaccine won't work.

From what I've read Infectious Bronchitis may remain transmitable by an infected chicken for up to 25 weeks post infection.

I cannot find any advice on Pear Tree Farms Animal Sancurary website. or on their Hen Keeping Guide on Quaratining any hens you get from them.
If you've read the link Perris supplied

https://assets.publishing.service.g...f-practice-welfare-of-laying-hens-pullets.pdf

it seems to me that not only are Pear Tree Farms completely irrisponsible, they are probably breaking the law in quite a few areas from transport to holding to distribution.

Say you get some their hens and not knowing much about chickens as I beleive many chicken keepers don't, their hens infected your existing hens with one of the more unpleasant diseases. Can you sue them? What recourse do you have?

 

[Shadrach]

I'm the same for all animals especially my own .

People don't usually think what the homeless and animals desperately need. They are so selfishly wasteful

They don't unfortunately and when they do they get it wrong because people think about what they want from the hens and what their emotions tell them the hens need, and cuddles and treats are not what these hens need.
What these hens need is knowledeable keepers with some dispassion in their outlook and some real regard for these creatures as seninent creatures rather than cuddly toys, or a cheap way of getting a few laying hens to squeeze out a few more eggs before they drop dead from exhaustion.

 

[Shadrach]

N9 computer here sadly

I don't think I know that model.