Shamo from Ideal Poultry - Grow with me!

[Age-of-Goositude]

Here's some more recent photos from a week or so ago.
Here's Rameses

And Cairo

And here's the two of them together
Cairo's neck fluffies are coming in weird

 

[Shamo Hybrid]

Hmmm..... maybe your chicks have some 'Ganoi' genetic in them, they are oriental gamefowls much like your Shamo / Asil variety but their variety have some that come with naked necks.

 

[Age-of-Goositude]

Hmmm..... maybe your chicks have some 'Ganoi' genetic in them, they are oriental gamefowls much like your Shamo / Asil variety but their variety have some that come with naked necks.

That sounds very cute

 

[varidgerunner]

Hmmm..... maybe your chicks have some 'Ganoi' genetic in them, they are oriental gamefowls much like your Shamo / Asil variety but their variety have some that come with naked necks.

Shamo are oriental hardfeathers. Ga Noi is the Vietnamese version.Thai Game, or Gai Chon is the type from Thailand. (Shamo is a Japanese term for "Siam" which was the term used them for Thailand, making Shamos most likely a thai game derivative) Asil, perhaps the original version of all, is the name used in India and Pakistan, and most likely came from ancient Persia. Hint Horoz comes from Turkey (huge birds), Shamo comes from Japan. Malay and Saipan Jungle Fowl are totally made up terms that are used to describe more recent breeds derived from parent stock, in the Malay's case the huge Kulang Asil of Southern India, and the Saipan most likely a landrace for of Shamo gone feral.

Ga Noi, or more properly, Ga Noi Don, from Vietnam are not truly naked necked. They just have extremely brittle feathers. They do have a naked patch on the neck, on the thighs and shoulder points, and most notably the breast, as do almost all good representaions of the aforementioned breeds. They are perhaps the most brittle feathered of all, and they can appear naked. The Madagascar game, parent of the modern naked neck, took this trait to the extreme, and coincedentally comes from very near an island where there was an exhiled Vietnamese prince a very long time ago.

The Ga Noi Don is most pronounced in it's lack of feathers in it's first year of life, often growing full feathering in it's first molt, or rather growing back the feathers it lost brooding and constantly sparring with siblings up to the point that sparring became more deadly and it had to be seperated. Often, in Vietnam, the naked condition is prolonged by the application of tumeric, as a skin conditioner and tonic, one effect of which is toughening the skin, good for it's intended purpose. It's application, almost daily, retards feather development, also good, considering that their intended purpose is often non-lethal in nature, (some Ga Noi Don being actually bred without spurs in the males), a contest of will and endurance, and may last for many rounds in hot steamy jungle conditions. Also, prevents a grip from an opponent.

All of the aforementioned breeds are very similarin type and appearance, often being indistinguishable. For instance a Kulang Asil might be mistaken for a Hint Horoz, or what we call a Malay, unless it is of the parrot-beaked long tail strain of Kulang. One region within a country can have a version that mimics a "breed" from a different country. American and European show stock is often bred for exagerated traits in the areas of very subtle differences described in early writings of naturalists and explorers who were describing very subtle differences, often found in only one regional variant, as is the case with Shamo.

So similarity exists in all the aforementioned breeds, and even the diluted hatchery stock.

 

[varidgerunner]

This is "Sexy". Sexy was most properly called a "Saigon", which is a cross between Thai and Ga Noi Don. Here he is as a young stag. You can see the patterns in feather growth. He was in no regards naked necked. He had feather follicles which grew in later once he was mature.

 

[varidgerunner]

In the hard feathered breeds, a cock can often appear naked when housed with a female. The females can be quite ruthless and can be bad with feather picking. Careful attention to diet and making sure that a hen is only housed with a male she approves of can alleviate much of this. Some hens just have to be housed separately, and only be combined with another chicken for breeding, and woe be unto the cock that is not up to her standards. This is most pronounced at molt, as her molt driven food cravings will include newly emerging feathers on her mate. The males can often become quite pacifistic when they are in molt.

I seldom slaughter an older bird for table use. The nobility and persona of these breeds makes slaughter of one that you have gotten to know quite hard. (More like children, harder for me than a dog and certainly a horse.) If they make it to a molt, I have gotten to know them, and as they are quite long lived, breeding into their teens, there is really no reason to. The post mortem investigations I have done would indicate that testicular shrinkage occurs during molt, giving them somewhat of a true breeding season. This would explain the change in attitude.

 

[MysteryChicken]

I would like to share a little Shamo chick my dad claimed. It's a real fuzz ball.

 

[ButtonquailGirl14]

I would like to share a little Shamo chick my dad claimed. It's a real fuzz ball.View attachment 1716026

that looks fake! Soo cute!

 

[MysteryChicken]

that looks fake! Soo cute!

It's a real chick. I'll take another photo for you. It's either a shamo, or aseel, one of the two.

 

[MysteryChicken]