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[centrarchid]

But its not illegal to own games. I have NO worries about anyone coming to my house to take away my chickens. There are hundreds (if not thousands) of cockfighters in the US.. any agency would be more likely to go after them, then to come after a regular hard working man with a relatively small farm and no paraphernalia.

In my town there are "huge" farms that have been operating for decades. I know the owners of two of them and they arent trying to hide them, they have them viewable from the road in prestigous neighborhoods.

From what I read, it seems the cockfighting ringleaders are the ones they go after.. the guys who host the events. Some happen to be breeders as well and get their chickens seized after they are caught fighting them.

I am more worried that a cockfighter will buy my chickens then to have someone rat me out for owning "fighting chickens".

John, there are five obvious ways to kill games not including environmental issues like disease and predators. First those lost in the job for working birds. Second is culling that virtually all keepers of poultry employs at one point or another. Third is neglect. Fourth is having birds confiscated. Fifth and last is breeding them in a manner where they are no longer recognized as games and thus others do not value them.

They have potential as a genetic resource and they being squandered because not everyone agrees on their use which often allows for lifespans that exceeds those of even pet birds, especially when pet birds are kept by people with very little knowledge or devote insufficient resources for keeping any kind of animal.

 

[centrarchid]

I might be breaking the law with respect to having Autumn Olive growing volunteer in my pasture. Also had some wacky weed growing up in retaining wall but contractor seemed to have a role in that.

 

[sdm111]

Like that guy that I linked a while back they didn't catch him fighting someone gave a tip of someone having roosters so he was raided. Yeah it was obvious he was fighting but they went onto his property via a tip of having roosters not by surveillance or anything. They take that stuff and run what about trespassing

 

[sdm111]

I found the answer might need your help centra

 

[roosterhavoc]

The best part is half my dome pens have fly tying roosters.
The other issue is these idiots see dubbed birds and they are automatically "prepped for fighting" It's all BS. You could easily fight most of the charges these nutjobs bring but it would cost you an arm and leg.

 

[roosterhavoc]

My guess is they have more on the guys they raid than you actually hear about. Cause they open themselves up to a lawsuit for unlawful search and seizure.
My issue is the way the laws read. There is so much "grey" area that benefits law enforcement. Like not being allowed to own fighting roosters or not being allowed to breed for the purpose of fighting. My assumption is they would or at least should be able to prove intent before any kind of search warrant would be issued.

 

[sdm111]

That and the part that really leaves me in awe is when they say the rooster must be euthanized cause they are too mean and aggressive! Now if anybody knows anything about fighting the absolute last thing somebody wants is a rooster trying to attact them when they strapped with implements! Yeah there's manfighters here and there but other than the occasional mean one these fowl are docile I bet more so than the average layer rooster due to all the SELECTIVE breeding and handling

 

[roosterhavoc]

There was a guy in Md recently that got the hammer brought down on him just a few days ago. I don't know the whole story but from a few different articles he was blatantly talking about win % in the phillipinnes. It's a federal crime to ship birds across state lines for the purpose of fighting. That's what probably got them the warrant in that case.
I have only one issue with this entire case. Supposedly they charged him with 67 counts of animal cruelty for having 67 dubbed roosters. That's absolute BS any way you slice it. I am not aware of it being illegal to dub birds.

 

[sdm111]

Ok I'm done I don't want to get another love note lol

 

[roosterhavoc]

You can legally keep laying hens in tiny cages as long as they can get up and turn around. You are allowed to debeak, toe trimming and dubbing although the recommended way is by electrode type device and to be done at 3 days of age?! Go figure. This is on my state.