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That is similar to approach I learned. It differed in that you approached the penned stag many times each time proving only a small morsel of food each time. Worked great for calming a flighty stag but some of havoc's issue might be man-fighter related and that is more of a need to stop doing something to prevent it from starting in the first place.
The food portions as you describe is accurate, just not a detail I thought would effect the outcome. Some like their birds at a particular weight so I think they would feed accordingly.
 
When I took him off the tie cord this evening and was holding him for a bit he fell asleep in my hands. Tomorrow he'll be ready for battle again.
The reason why I had to pin him down is he won't get into a pen fight and tear up his feet as my pens are close together. Not because I'm afraid of him.
 
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I've done nothing to cause his aggressiveness towards me. Just about all other stags I can scoop out with one hand with no issues. What would you recommend ol chicken whisperer?
I told you what I did with my ginger like that
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And the food portions wouldn't make a bit of difference with him. He could care less about food if my hand is near him.
 
The food portions as you describe is accurate, just not a detail I thought would effect the outcome. Some like their birds at a particular weight so I think they would feed accordingly.


Getting birds into fighting trim we did only after they were tamed as process usually resulted in a weight loss or gain depending on bird. The trim weight did have a subjective component based on feel. When a bird is way off it either is heavy in jumping or does not snap wings back into position even after mild exertion.
 
Getting birds into fighting trim we did only after they were tamed as process usually resulted in a weight loss or gain depending on bird. The trim weight did have a subjective component based on feel. When a bird is way off it either is heavy in jumping or does not snap wings back into position even after mild exertion.



When we pulled a bullstag or cock off a walk where bugs and greens dominated the diet they were usually at what we though of as they optimal weight. If they had a acces to a lot of feed / grain they tended to be heavy. Wormy was obviously light. Walks were an impractical method for conditioning and taming.
 
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