Show Off Your American Gamefowl and Chat Thread!!!

[JShubin]

I got him because from all the research I had done a proper black and or dark mahogany hackled Warhorse was supposed too be straight comb I'm real happy with the bird.

All my birds have small diameter roost and plenty of hay so shouldn't have an issue knock on wood.

Im not discrediting the warhorse, or the breeder, or you... but you could put together any combination of traits and it will look like something "pure" breed. If you change that straight comb to pea comb, the owner could claim Sid Taylor or black Roundhead.

 

[JShubin]

Thats why I just judge on individual basis. A "warhorse" from California could be completely different from one acquired on East coast. And probably unrelated completely.

I bred warhorse also (or so I was told)... and mixed with hatch several times over, but still have warhorse looking hens.

 

[sdm111]

Im not discrediting the warhorse, or the breeder, or you... but you could put together any combination of traits and it will look like something "pure" breed. If you change that straight comb to pea comb, the owner could claim Sid Taylor or black Roundhead.

No they can't cause they won't breed true.

 

[JShubin]

No they can't cause they won't breed true.

They may not breed true, but you wouldn't know that until the follow year... And you'd have to be knowledgeable to even know that it didnt breed true.

If I bred my black hatch types over anything else black (warhorse, sid, n* roundhead), they would produce black offspring and most people wouldn't know the difference.

Its easy to pass off a single gamefowl as something "pure", especially if the buyer is new and the seller is cunning.

We give advice to all newcomers to "ask the breeder" because a rooster can look like anything, but without history we dont know.

Which is why I advocate judging birds on individual basis. (you probably arent buying a Chevy... but a Ford Chassis, Dodge power-train, with Chevy accessories.) which may or maynot be what you want.

 

[Nodaksnakelover]

that is so true! You can call a bird anything you want and us newbies wouldn't know better. When I got those gray gamefowl eggs last year, they were supposed to be Harold Brown Gray. But frankly out of 12 eggs, I got six to hatch, out of those four were gray, and two were obviously going to be red chicks. I culled one due to bad leg development at about four weeks... A week later the dog decided I needed to cull two more chicks...oops...one red, one gray. But when I ordered all grays... and didn't get all grays...I then question if these are even in fact Harold Brown Grays... However, seriously, these guys have all been dead for a long time, and they themselves crossed stuff in. I don't think we should ruin our birds by trying to keep them "pure" by inbreeding. Breed for what you like and mix as needed to keep the birds strong by infusion of a little outside blood.

 

[Nodaksnakelover]

How my day is going...came to the pigeon loft, on section in there I have for the chickens. Anyhow, my pigeons don't always go inside their section before I leave so I just leave the drop trap open for them to come in when they are ready. Well, today I found an owl in there! Oops! Killed two of my pigeons. I used a bucket and a board to catch him with and turned him loose outside. Wildlife happens, and for me personally, I love owls. I'll try harder to keep the pigeons more hungry so they come back inside at my calling rather than letting them come in as they please. And keep the drop trap covered when I'm gone. Keeping birds really does put me in touch with local wildlife! I was told by my father in law, where I have the birds, that one of my live traps had a cat in it. But he let it go, said it was fat... Was not too happy about that...Owls might get a pass, but a cat never does! Will have to hide my live traps better! Sad to have lost two good pigeons, but on the other hand I enjoyed the experience with one of my favorite bird species.

 

[JShubin]

that is so true! You can call a bird anything you want and us newbies wouldn't know better. When I got those gray gamefowl eggs last year, they were supposed to be Harold Brown Gray. But frankly out of 12 eggs, I got six to hatch, out of those four were gray, and two were obviously going to be red chicks. I culled one due to bad leg development at about four weeks... A week later the dog decided I needed to cull two more chicks...oops...one red, one gray. But when I ordered all grays... and didn't get all grays...I then question if these are even in fact Harold Brown Grays... However, seriously, these guys have all been dead for a long time, and they themselves crossed stuff in. I don't think we should ruin our birds by trying to keep them "pure" by inbreeding. Breed for what you like and mix as needed to keep the birds strong by infusion of a little outside blood.

I couldnt agree more

 

[JShubin]

How my day is going...came to the pigeon loft, on section in there I have for the chickens. Anyhow, my pigeons don't always go inside their section before I leave so I just leave the drop trap open for them to come in when they are ready. Well, today I found an owl in there! Oops! Killed two of my pigeons. I used a bucket and a board to catch him with and turned him loose outside. Wildlife happens, and for me personally, I love owls. I'll try harder to keep the pigeons more hungry so they come back inside at my calling rather than letting them come in as they please. And keep the drop trap covered when I'm gone. Keeping birds really does put me in touch with local wildlife! I was told by my father in law, where I have the birds, that one of my live traps had a cat in it. But he let it go, said it was fat... Was not too happy about that...Owls might get a pass, but a cat never does! Will have to hide my live traps better! Sad to have lost two good pigeons, but on the other hand I enjoyed the experience with one of my favorite bird species.

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I recently did some metal work for a friend and ranch owner...


"El tecolote" means "The owl" in Spanish... which he said is a region of Mexico where he comes from

 

[JShubin]

@Nodaksnakelover do you have many snakes in North Dakota?

 

[Nodaksnakelover]

@Nodaksnakelover do you have many snakes in North Dakota?

the most common is the garter snake. Locally, we have two species of garter, the green grass snake, northern red belly, and I'm told that more sandy areas can hold populations of hognose snake. But more hognose are found to the south east and far western part of the state from here. On the western side of the Missouri river we also have green yellow belly racers, bull snakes, and Prairie Rattlesnakes. So no, not really a lot of species compared to other states.