Silkie color. Lavender or blue?

[KrysMarie]

Here's the pictures

 

[KrysMarie]

Forgot to ask... do you mind sharing how much you paid?

And I paid $20 for each. Idk if this is common the others I paid maybe $3-$4 each.
Oh and the white silkie is have the size of my RIR

 

[EggSighted4Life]

Nice pics.
$20 is a fair price for a breeder bird that is of that age and sexed (if done so correctly). $5-10 for straight run, pure breed, day to week old would be close. $3 straight run barn yard mix is average of what I see.

Other birds you pay $3-4 is normal for sexed hatchery birds at the feed store or by mail. None of the hatcheries I know of can sex their day old Silkie chicks.

However, in the Silkie breed, I would consider smooth feathering to be a fault. And the breeder could clearly see it is smooth feathered before selling it to you, which means they know 1 of their birds is throwing smooth. Again recessive, not necessarily at the surface. But IF they were SERIOUS about breeding QUALITY birds, they would work to cull that bird from their program. Maybe they are! Maybe they didn't really intend to mislead you and I hold people to a high standard. I mean you did call her your SMOOTH girl. Is your white one fluffy?

I don't see any discernible comb in that pic. And if it's non bearded then waddles would probably be visible on a boy by now, as well as the blue ear lobes are easier to see on boys. I decided I will not breed big Silkies personally, since part of their appeal is size. As far as the dots that are hard to see, I breed for spots! But, white feather genetics is complicated and can have any combination of sub colors, or colors hiding in it lineage, that is. Too many other colors of interest so I haven't gone deep enough to share anything enlightening about white plumage. I think it's cool to have a variety though, looks like a fun flock! Oh, and I love the white Silkies, they are so striking.

Oh, I've even had straight combs turn up on Silkies I purchased...

 

[KrysMarie]

Nice pics.
$20 is a fair price for a breeder bird that is of that age and sexed (if done so correctly). $5-10 for straight run, pure breed, day to week old would be close. $3 straight run barn yard mix is average of what I see.

Other birds you pay $3-4 is normal for sexed hatchery birds at the feed store or by mail. None of the hatcheries I know of can sex their day old Silkie chicks.

However, in the Silkie breed, I would consider smooth feathering to be a fault. And the breeder could clearly see it is smooth feathered before selling it to you, which means they know 1 of their birds is throwing smooth. Again recessive, not necessarily at the surface. But IF they were SERIOUS about breeding QUALITY birds, they would work to cull that bird from their program. Maybe they are! Maybe they didn't really intend to mislead you and I hold people to a high standard. I mean you did call her your SMOOTH girl. Is your white one fluffy?

I don't see any discernible comb in that pic. And if it's non bearded then waddles would probably be visible on a boy by now, as well as the blue ear lobes are easier to see on boys. I decided I will not breed big Silkies personally, since part of their appeal is size. As far as the dots that are hard to see, I breed for spots! But, white feather genetics is complicated and can have any combination of sub colors, or colors hiding in it lineage, that is. Too many other colors of interest so I haven't gone deep enough to share anything enlightening about white plumage. I think it's cool to have a variety though, looks like a fun flock! Oh, and I love the white Silkies, they are so striking.

Oh, I've even had straight combs turn up on Silkies I purchased...

Here's a few more pictures of my white silkie. I gave her a little bath so some of her fluff is still down. It looks like she may be molting? I see a bunch of spikey feathers. Like barbs? Do you see the dark spotting on her?

 

[KrysMarie]

And here's the blues feet. And her earlobe is purple.

 

[BirdloveNa]

Darn. I had my hear set on lavender. I was so excited when she told me I'd have a lavender. She was very kind and seemed very knowledgeable. She shows her birds. I guess I assumed she knew what she was doing. So she'll stay this dark then?

Lavender will be very light as a chick and on into adulthood. Sorry you do get one. My lavender just hatched this morning.

 

[Summerjade1357]

Hi.

That bird will NEVER turn lavender. It is blue.

Silver, for some reason is the term to describe splash in Silkies.

Lavender, if not bred to a lavender bird will breed as black. Black cross splash equals 100% BLUE birds. That breeder is mistaken on their genetics. Maybe you could fill them in.

Never heard that sideboard term, I would guess just some BS to make up for the bird not being nice and clean colored... but I still have some to learn, so ..

Blue is one of my favorite colors (except for in Sillkies). She appears to be female in my experience.

If I’m looking to add a blue rooster to my silkie breeding flock (I’m new to this) and I have black, and splash hens how do I ensure I get a blue rooster and not something split to lavender. I messaged a breeder and she said “Most of our flock is shades of blue. From lavender to dark blue almost black.Lavender is the self blue gene. Our rooster is self blue split "true" blue.”

So could I get a rooster from her and confidently breed to get, blue, black, and splash chicks from the parings ?

 

[Hatch in chicks]

blue

 

[EggSighted4Life]

So could I get a rooster from her and confidently breed to get, blue, black, and splash chicks from the parings ?

As long as your hens are NOT carrying recessive lavender (hidden) then none of your chicks will be lavender.

If you get any lavender chicks then you will know one of your hens is carrying that gene and "split" for it also essentially.

Otherwise standard BBS stuff should apply.

Lavender will not present unless both parents are carrying it.

Not knowing how well she/they know(s) her/their stock or it's origin or if she's ever done any test mating etc or just going on what she was told.. you can only take a person at their word, knowing IF they sound/SEEM like they're sincere.. they're probably disclosing what information they do have to the best of their ability and knowledge..

Our rooster is self blue split "true" blue.”

This statement seems like they're calling him LAV split to blue.. which would be inaccurate, according to MY understanding.. Lav is lav is lav and will breed as black when bred to anything else but Lav. Obviously Lav when bred to blue that's not carrying the lav gene will throuw 50/50 black and blue. When bred to splash.. should throw 100% blue.

So he could be Blue, true blue.. and split to Lav (hidden).. aka carrying the gene.. but he cannot be "self Blue" and split to true blue. Maybe @NatJ can clean up any details I flubbed. @pipdzipdnreadytogo is another (among many more) genetics knowledgable poster than myself who might also have better feedback than I do. Or consider posting in the following linked thread if you don't find enough response on this one..


https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/the-ask-anything-to-nicalandia-thread.1509343/page-308

Got pictures of the "breeder" stock?

 

[Summerjade1357]

As long as your hens are NOT carrying recessive lavender (hidden) then none of your chicks will be lavender.

If you get any lavender chicks then you will know one of your hens is carrying that gene and "split" for it also essentially.

Otherwise standard BBS stuff should apply.

Lavender will not present unless both parents are carrying it.

Not knowing how well she/they know(s) her/their stock or it's origin or if she's ever done any test mating etc or just going on what she was told.. you can only take a person at their word, knowing IF they sound/SEEM like they're sincere.. they're probably disclosing what information they do have to the best of their ability and knowledge..


This statement seems like they're calling him LAV split to blue.. which would be inaccurate, according to MY understanding.. Lav is lav is lav and will breed as black when bred to anything else but Lav. Obviously Lav when bred to blue that's not carrying the lav gene will throuw 50/50 black and blue. When bred to splash.. should throw 100% blue.

So he could be Blue, true blue.. and split to Lav (hidden).. aka carrying the gene.. but he cannot be "self Blue" and split to true blue. Maybe @NatJ can clean up any details I flubbed. @pipdzipdnreadytogo is another (among many more) genetics knowledgable poster than myself who might also have better feedback than I do. Or consider posting in the following linked thread if you don't find enough response on this one..


https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/the-ask-anything-to-nicalandia-thread.1509343/page-308

Got pictures of the "breeder" stock?

So if I don't have blue hens and just have the splash and black, and her rooster has recessive lav, then I'll only get black and blue chicks?