Someplace to post information on wormers that should show up in a search

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  1. Trefoil

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    I can't find the chart I got a few years ago from someone on the guinea fowl forum, but here hopefully will be some links that will help, they are mostly aimed at chickens, because more research has been done about them.
    http://poultrykeeper.com/general-chickens/worming-chickens

    Below I copies an article by Geekgirl on this forum
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    By: geekgurl
    Posted 8/29/11 • Last updated 9/15/12 • 10,044 views • 5 comments
    I created this page because I was getting confused from all the different worming advice I have been reading on the board. It's just for reference. I've included links where I've found this stuff.
    The only approved wormer in this country for poultry is wazine.https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=423896&p=2 Use the others with common sense as they are made for other livestock and use at own risk.
    When worming, you'll want to repeat treatment 2 weeks after the first time. Also, you'll want to vary your treatment. If you see worms, start with Wazine17 first and follow with a different wormer.
    https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=315346
    Wazine17 (piperazine)paralyzes roundworms and they get expelled from the hen. Withdrawal is 14 days. Dosage:two ounces in two gallons of water for one day-https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=401475. Found this at my local feedstore.
    Dosages for Ivermectin cattle pour on should be put on bare skin on the back of their necks between their shoulders. Use a syringe with a 20-25 gauge needle....not for injection, but for measurement. Dont get any on their feathers, it's not known what the effects will be....bare skin only as it is quickly absorbed into the skin. For small chickens such as bantams, leghorns, hamburgs, seabrights....3 drops. Medium size such as EE's, sex links....4 drops. Large chickens such as barred rocks, rir's, buff orpingtons, black australorp's....5 drops. For extra large chickens such as jersey giants, big roosters,etc.....6 drops to the back of the neck. It's best to wear plastic gloves and normally a 2 person task. Discard eggs for 2 weeks. The pour on will also take care of most lice/mite problems. Edited: Ivermectin kills most worms(gapeworm, roundworm, mites and lice)including gapeworm, but will not kill tapeworms just for your info.
    Found at tractor supply.https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/403549/ivermectin-pour-on
    Valbazen will kill tapeworm, roundworm and gapeworm and lots more. Dosage- Dosage is 1/2cc for standard size chickens and 1/4cc for smaller chickens including silkies. https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=469556 You can use an oral syringe to squirt it down their throats individually or you can inject it into a small piece of bread and give each chicken a piece of bread....they gobble it up. - dump the eggs for two weekshttps://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=401475 I've found it at Jefferslivestock.com
    Safeguard (fenbendazole)- kills tapeworm, gapeworm, roundworm and more. Safeguard paste (fenbendazole), an excellent wormer. Dosage is a "pea" size amount for for the large ones and a "small pea" size amount for the small ones. It might be easiest to put it on a small piece of bread and give a piece to each bird.https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=416541 or safeguard 10% suspension liquid goat wormer; 3cc per gallon of water for 3 days https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=272801. Discard eggs for 14 days. Found this online at Tractor Supply. OR Dosage is 1/2cc for standard size chickens and 1/4cc for smaller chickens on a piece of bread https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=561908&p=2
    Worm with wazine17 first, wait 2 weeks and then worm with either Ivermectin, Valbazen or safe-guard. Withdraw eggs for 14 days.
    Worm chart http://healthybirds.umd.edu/Disease/Deworming Birds.pdf
    You can allso use Ivermectin paste 1.97% take an put a dab the size of
    a 1/2 pencil eraser under there wing in arm pit area rub it in .Note do not eat eggs for 2 weeks
    Vary the med given for worming every 6 months. Once you worm for the first time with wazine17, you don't have to worm with it first 6 months down the road. It is best to rotate wormers through out year so parasites do not build up resistance to one type.
    Poo chart
    http://www.chat.allotment.org.uk/index.php?topic=17568.0
     
  2. casportpony

    casportpony Poop Inspector General Premium Member Project Manager 6 Years

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    I hope you don't mind, but I see some things in there that I have to comment on.

    -Kathy
     
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    casportpony Poop Inspector General Premium Member Project Manager 6 Years

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    I gotta start with the poop chart... If a pea ever has a poop that looks like this it's sick:
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    -Kathy

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    I said the above because I have actually seen six with poop like this at the feedstore. Three of the six died, so I stole their bodies and had necropsies done on them. Cause of death was severe coccidiosis.
     
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    casportpony Poop Inspector General Premium Member Project Manager 6 Years

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    @Trefoil , I do think it's a good idea to have worming info in one place, so please don't let me discourage you. Apologies in advance if I have offended you.

    -Kathy
     
  5. Trefoil

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    It offended me when I couldn't find the information that I know you have posted and probably more than once. That's why I started these 2 threads hoping you and everyone else would post here and then it would show up on a search when needed.[​IMG]
     
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    Please do.
     
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    casportpony Poop Inspector General Premium Member Project Manager 6 Years

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    Here's some info on praziquantil.

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    I'll go out on a limb and say that the normal dose to treat tapeworms is not more than 10mg/kg once by mouth, but I am *not* a vet, lol.




    From: http://parasitipedia.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2695&Itemid=3023
    Acute Toxicity and Tolerance of Praziquantel

    • LD50 acute, mice, p.o. 2000-3000 mg/kg
    • LD50 acute, mice, s.c. 7000 mg/kg
    • LD50 acute, mice, i.p. >2000 mg/kg
    • LD50 acute, mice, i.m. >2000 mg/kg
    • LD50 acute, rats, p.o. 2000-3000 mg/kg
    • LD50 acute, rats, s.c. 16000 mg/kg
    • LD50 acute, rats, i.p. 600-800 mg/kg
    • LD50 acute, rats, i.m. >1000 mg/kg
    • LD50 acute, dogs p.o. >200 mg/kg. It is not possible to determine a lethal dose >200 mg/kg after oral administration because such doses cause vomit.
    • LD50 acute, dogs: s.c. >3000 mg/kg
    • Praziquantel has a hIgh safety margin (~40). Usually dogs, cats and livestock tolerate praziquantel very well.
    • Puppies 4 to 5 weels old tolerated oral or parenteral doses of up to 55 mg/kg very well.
    • In dogs, daily administration of 60 to 180 mg/kg during 4 weeks cause no sings of toxicity. Parenteral doses of 200 mg/kg caused transient vomit, salivation (drooling) and/or depression.
    • In cats, parenteral administration of 50 to 100 mg/kg caused ataxia (uncoordinated movements) and depression. Parenteral doses of 200 mg/kg were fatal.
    • In birds praziquantel overdose is toxic for the liver. Injectable praziquantel is fatal for finches.


    -Kathy
     

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