Spiral Line Breeding and Genetics

[Cyprus]

True and not something I want to spend my time on.

Me neither.

 

[EggSighted4Life]

Thank you guys a ton for having this conversation with me!

The real challenge is already knowing that my attention to detail is so over the top that even breeding already pretty good birds together... I feel as though maybe only 1 or 2 out of every 100 that hatch are true breeding quality.

Y'all have indeed confirmed that I should not waste my time breeding the wheaten to hopefully get black and eventually more Lav as while it's doable it can be very challenging.

@ChickenCanoe The chocolate connection you sent me has replied and also has Black... I think I will see about getting some of those and incorporating to the spiral plan!

Thank you all, again!

 

[The Moonshiner]

IDK I've done it several times and don't see it as that big of a deal but then again that's the stuff I'm into.
I know back in the showing days show folks were very against it and honestly they knew little about the pattern genetics.
If they don't understand the genetics then I can see why they think it is such a tragedy to do.

 

[EggSighted4Life]

IDK I've done it several times and don't see it as that big of a deal but then again that's the stuff I'm into.

Okay.. I might mess around a little... cuz you're right.. it can be a lot of fun!

And I do have enough information to not quite run myself off the track.

 

[ChickenCanoe]

Thank you guys a ton for having this conversation with me!

The real challenge is already knowing that my attention to detail is so over the top that even breeding already pretty good birds together... I feel as though maybe only 1 or 2 out of every 100 that hatch are true breeding quality.

Y'all have indeed confirmed that I should not waste my time breeding the wheaten to hopefully get black and eventually more Lav as while it's doable it can be very challenging.

@ChickenCanoe The chocolate connection you sent me has replied and also has Black... I think I will see about getting some of those and incorporating to the spiral plan!

Thank you all, again!

I think you are right. If not breeding something like white leghorns, white faced black Spanish, anconas, fayoumis or something else old and well defined, it will take a lot of birds to get 2% that you really should be using for breeding.

 

[The Moonshiner]

Get a bunch of those chocolates.
You can breed the lavender roosters to the chocolate hens and the resulting pullets will be black split to lavender and no chocolate genes.
You can then breed them back to the lavender roosters and get lavenders and black split to lavender.
The males from crossing lavender to chocolate will carry a lavender gene and a chocolate gene so discard them.

 

[Cyprus]

Get a bunch of those chocolates.
You can breed the lavender roosters to the chocolate hens and the resulting pullets will be black split to lavender and no chocolate genes.
You can then breed them back to the lavender roosters and get lavenders and black split to lavender.
The males from crossing lavender to chocolate will carry a lavender gene and a chocolate gene so discard them.

This is a really good plan.

Or they can get lavs from the NC breeder.

 

[EggSighted4Life]

Or they can get lavs from the NC breeder.

Who's that?

 

[EggSighted4Life]

One more question, since we're on project colors... How do you get Lav cross Buff to equal porcelain/blue cream? TIA!

 

[Cyprus]

Who's that?

Green Grables Farm.
http://www.greengrables.com/p/the-ameraucana-bantams.html?m=1