What is wrong with owning more than 4 geese??? I only have 11. The neighbors never complain about the noise they make. And visitors have no problem being escorted from their vehicles to the house at faster pace than usual. BTW Holm if you need a male African I have 2 we are getting rid of. They are 1.5 years old. I intend to send them to freezer camp as soon as I can find someone gullible enough to do the deed. I also have some Buff geese (males as well) that are heading to camp. We will keep 2 sets of trios. One mixed trio and one buff trio. The Africans are out no matter what.