Texas

[RUNuts]

Nice to see a fellow Baytonian on here!

Greetings! And to you also.

The world does shrink occasionally.

 

[007Sean]

Got 2 last year. 1 has branches and other produced figs. Fertilized every 2 months. 1 in pot 1 in ground. The potted 1 has branches, 7 and is budding out now. View attachment 2548642The other one in ground is a stick with 3 branchesView attachment 2548645

I agree, a little to close to the foundation!
Here's a pic of one of mine.

 

[Derangedplanet]

You guys have been talking about pvc sooo much it's got me thinking. Has anyone ever constructed a run out of pvc and run water through it for a pvc watering system? I live in the desert up here so I was considering it for watering the ground in the pen. But it doesn't sound like the worst idea for both. Pvc that waters the chickens, keeps them locked up, and waters the ground through tiny pin holes around the edges of the top outside edge.anyways just some pvc thoughts. Probably wouldn't do it because it would be hard to monitor for algae growth.

 

[electrycmonk]

You guys have been talking about pvc sooo much it's got me thinking. Has anyone ever constructed a run out of pvc and run water through it for a pvc watering system? I live in the desert up here so I was considering it for watering the ground in the pen. But it doesn't sound like the worst idea for both. Pvc that waters the chickens, keeps them locked up, and waters the ground through tiny pin holes around the edges of the top outside edge.anyways just some pvc thoughts. Probably wouldn't do it because it would be hard to monitor for algae growth.

PVC in direct sunlight has a very short.lifespan from personal experiments here in DFW. 1-3 years and it's brittle enough to snap in the right amount of pressure. Be it external or internal. If your thinking of an arched frame there is a much better suggestion - it's a welded wire mesh panel that can be bent in a "U shape".... We have a few for the garden. As for watering to the coop and run. I'm preparing to change things up and convert to PEX pipe. Much more freeze resistant. It's got a mild learning curve but, I don't see that as a difficult one. More like a parallel to the old carpenter addage, "measure twice, cut once."

More later .. night night.

 

[Derangedplanet]

PVC in direct sunlight has a very short.lifespan from personal experiments here in DFW. 1-3 years and it's brittle enough to snap in the right amount of pressure. Be it external or internal. If your thinking of an arched frame there is a much better suggestion - it's a welded wire mesh panel that can be bent in a "U shape".... We have a few for the garden. As for watering to the coop and run. I'm preparing to change things up and convert to PEX pipe. Much more freeze resistant. It's got a mild learning curve but, I don't see that as a difficult one. More like a parallel to the old carpenter addage, "measure twice, cut once."

More later .. night night.

Unfortunately I'm well versed in plumbing. 2 owned houses in a row where people left the plumbing in shambles.
Never tried using pvc outside tho so good to know. I'm building a temporary run/coop. Until I build my big big 6 sections run/coop. Thinking 16x20 for that.
When I had my quail I tried a few waterer styles. Metal piping directly to the cups was nice but expensive and a bit frustrating. I ended up landing on soft plastic tubing at my dad's recommendation. Sure it eventually gets algae but with a tiny bit of vinegar in the water only needs replaced every year or so. And a 30 foot roll of it lasts 3 or so changes. So I'll probably do that again. But the thought of a cage that waters the chickens and the grass still intrigues me.

 

[electrycmonk]

Unfortunately I'm well versed in plumbing. 2 owned houses in a row where people left the plumbing in shambles.
Never tried using pvc outside tho so good to know. I'm building a temporary run/coop. Until I build my big big 6 sections run/coop. Thinking 16x20 for that.
When I had my quail I tried a few waterer styles. Metal piping directly to the cups was nice but expensive and a bit frustrating. I ended up landing on soft plastic tubing at my dad's recommendation. Sure it eventually gets algae but with a tiny bit of vinegar in the water only needs replaced every year or so. And a 30 foot roll of it lasts 3 or so changes. So I'll probably do that again. But the thought of a cage that waters the chickens and the grass still intrigues me.

Our coop is ~10X14 and the run is ~18x ~24... Wait I think I already babbled about it to take. Oops. Sorry about that.

Alright, I'll totally agree on the intrigue of such a dual purpose system for watering.

There is still a possibility for it to occur.

Must meditate on it for now.

 

[Derangedplanet]

Our coop is ~10X14 and the run is ~18x ~24... Wait I think I already babbled about it to take. Oops. Sorry about that.

Alright, I'll totally agree on the intrigue of such a dual purpose system for watering.

There is still a possibility for it to occur.

Must meditate on it for now.

Probably easiest/best with steel/iron piping but lord that would be pricey. Especially now that steel piping is more of an aesthetic sold good than a purpose sold one.

 

[Matejka]

Close to the house & sidewalk? A little constrained? I put mine in the yard away from everything.

I think i buried the front yard one too deep. Cut off four stems from it last year.
Backyard one, the dogs uses for toothpicks.

Both are getting big. 5 years since rooting & they are growing much faster in the ground.

No sidewalk, and yes about 2 ft from foundation

 

[Matejka]

PVC in direct sunlight has a very short.lifespan from personal experiments here in DFW. 1-3 years and it's brittle enough to snap in the right amount of pressure. Be it external or internal. If your thinking of an arched frame there is a much better suggestion - it's a welded wire mesh panel that can be bent in a "U shape".... We have a few for the garden. As for watering to the coop and run. I'm preparing to change things up and convert to PEX pipe. Much more freeze resistant. It's got a mild learning curve but, I don't see that as a difficult one. More like a parallel to the old carpenter addage, "measure twice, cut once."

More later .. night night.

Did some reading on PEX pipe. Learned alot!
However, it looks like sunlight degrades it. Does pvc deteriorate faster?
Here's what I read
PEX plumbing system has been used for more years and therefore its failures has been observed and known. Its major failures is linked to piping and fitting. Piping fails when the pipes are exposed to chlorine that is within the water, exposure to direct sunlight before its installation...

PEX is vulnerable to sunlight and hence degrades very fast. This means that tubing cannot be carried out where there is direct exposure to ultra-violet rays, hence forcing the plumber to store it away from sunlight before installation and much care from daylight after fixing it.
You can read more here
https://www.repipeyourhouse.com/pex-plumbing-failures/
Inquiring minds wanna know thoughts opinions

 

[Derangedplanet]

Did some reading on PEX pipe. Learned alot!
However, it looks like sunlight degrades it. Does pvc deteriorate faster?
Here's what I read
PEX plumbing system has been used for more years and therefore its failures has been observed and known. Its major failures is linked to piping and fitting. Piping fails when the pipes are exposed to chlorine that is within the water, exposure to direct sunlight before its installation...

PEX is vulnerable to sunlight and hence degrades very fast. This means that tubing cannot be carried out where there is direct exposure to ultra-violet rays, hence forcing the plumber to store it away from sunlight before installation and much care from daylight after fixing it.
You can read more here
https://www.repipeyourhouse.com/pex-plumbing-failures/
Inquiring minds wanna know thoughts opinions

In all honesty I've never thought it over but most pvc based plastics seem to suffer this plight. Clear plastic totes become unviable in less than a year in a high uv index place. I don't really know that we make a pipe from plastic well suited for uv. The sun is a considerable contender. Pex may outlast pvc, I've never tested the 2. But my guess is they have the same uv index requirements. As would cpvc. The one plastic I think of that would maybe be reliable at a little longer is the ones the use for sprinkler systems that is not at all meant for indoor use. But I'm pretty sure that one is a variety of pex with an additive that makes it not perfectly food safe that probably adds some weather/light resistance.
From what I've read pex and pvc main failures in the plumbing world is associated with age and attachments to other pipes. Copped to pvc is known for leaks to come up and is not suggested in walls according to our inspector of this house.