The carbon tax

[chickened]

The premise was that global warming caused it but that was not the focus of the movie. The focus was the life on earth afterwards and the good versus evil basic struggles.

The Biblical explanation for the flood varies some say it was localized some say it was figuratively. It does say that there was a mist that encompassed the earth and that it blocked the harmful rays of the sun, kept the temps stable and things did not age (sunlight decomposes organics) lifespans became gradually shorter after the flood in biblical records. There was no rain up to that point as we know it. The bible merely references these events for a larger purpose it is not really a science book as some see it that way but it is remarkable how things written in that time period do reflect on modern science although that was not the point of writing it. Columbus got the idea the earth was round from reading scriptures. Isaiah I believe.

 

[punk-a-doodle]

Nah, that's not what I'm saying at all. As Dun said, the Earth was not designed, or designed to sustain specific numbers, and when you have a species that sees delayed reactions in natural consequences/results combined with rapid growth, you will eventually start running into issues. We already have. It is not as though these results mean the end of the human species either, just that there are very avoidable issues (ie. Decreased quality and/or presence of resources) that can but probably won't be addressed by us in a positive way. They will be addressed though, just in ways most of us won't be terribly happy about.

Aye Dun, that is kind of similar to how I see things. I ultimately don't give a flip if we have an impact on climate, the impact on things like water and air quality is enough for me. I live in a state that has the highest warning levels for air quality, and yet I see people honestly suggest everyone merely wear respirators everywhere instead of making any attempt to clean up our air. Awesome. That is an attitude I seem to run into a lot in this country that I haven't really run into in some other countries I've lived in.

 

[Dunkopf]

Well the USA has been a country unto itself since it was officially formed. It tended to make us kind of isolationist. Many Americans believe they are exceptional and that God has bestowed us with special status or something. You see constant criticism of the UN and criticism of any leaders in our country that actually want to conform to UN standards that the rest of the UN members are conforming to.

Things are changing. America is no longer the powerhouse it used to be. Other countries are catching up. We have to become members of the world and stop acting like we are better than everyone else. It's happening slowly but surely.

 

[punk-a-doodle]

Chickened, you may be interested into checking out the concept of a flat Earth more. There are many interesting books and articles from a variety of backgrounds that cover how there never was a widespread idea that the Earth was flat, but the idea that this was a common belief and that Columbus was struggling against flat-Earth thinkers did become popularized in the 1900s. Interesting topic.

 

[chickened]

I admit my knowledge on the subject is of old but I remember Columbus went to Spain to Queen Isabella and King Ferdinand and later was given ships to prove his theory (according to Washington Irving). Aristotle was the first to theorise the earth was round from an eclipse.. There are versus in the Bible that precede Aristotle.
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[punk-a-doodle]

Yeah, we were still being taught that in school, and I'm pretty sure I am younger than you. The reasons why we were taught that are quite interesting! I definitely recommend looking into the subject, though it is just one of many bogus things that end up being taught as truth, and just one of the many I never questioned. XD Makes me really respect people who think to even look into these things.

 

[Q9]

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I never saw that. What was the premise for so much water? On that note I never understood the Noahs Ark fable. Where did all the rain come from and where did all the water go when it was over. The Earth is in kind of a closed bubble so when water evaporates it goes in the atmosphere and comes back down as precipitation. So where did the water supply come from? It doesn't equate.

There's debate among us Christians as to whether it was truly worldwide or localized to destroy only the human-inhabited "world," which at that point would have been very small. There's evidence for both sides. I tend to take the side of localized due to the evidence you mentioned. There's a giant honking crater near Antarctica from a meteor that could have caused such a thing. There are lots of other crazy theories flying around, though.

Sorry, thread hijack.

 

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Washington Irving was pretty free with how he dealt with history - in fact, the main objection to Columbus' voyage was that he had underestimated the distance to Japan. Which he did.

 

[gamebirdsonly]

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We are better then everyone else.
Why do we want to be like everyone else?
That is what makes this country so great that we are not like all the other countries but then we have people like you that want us to be like the countries are ancestor left.

Why do so many people still want to come here ? let me guess are freedoms

 

[chickened]

He also coined the name given to Indians as he thought he landed in India. He would have been a nice guy to converse with as he was adventuresome for his time
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Washington Irving was pretty free with how he dealt with history - in fact, the main objection to Columbus' voyage was that he had underestimated the distance to Japan. Which he did.