the cream gene

[nicalandia]

No Cream Light Brown LEghorns that I'm aware of.
We have Light Brown Leghorns.

well if you can get your hands of them Cream light brown leghorns that will save you a lot of time on breeding

 

[nicalandia]

After looking at lots of Dutch websites it seems that these are known as Citron, so are you folks saying cream and citron are one and the same?

Citroen and Cream are one and the same, but the correct name for the gene is Cream, Citroen or Citron is just a shade of gold

 

[cluckadoddledoo]

Citroen and Cream are one and the same, but the correct name for the gene is Cream, Citroen or Citron is just a shade of gold

Thanks Does it come in hetrozygous and homozygous form? Like it does in equines? Very new to chicken colour genetics

I have two gold pencilled Hamburgs and two pencilled cream hens and a citron cockerel, so what colours will I get if I breed them?

Gold + Cream

Cream + Cream

TIA

 

[nicalandia]

Thanks Does it come in hetrozygous and homozygous form? Like it does in equines? Very new to chicken colour genetics

I have two gold pencilled Hamburgs and two pencilled cream hens and a citron cockerel, so what colours will I get if I breed them?

Gold + Cream

Cream + Cream

TIA

the Cream gene is recessive, it will only show its cream color only on homzygous form..

gold and silver are sex linked, they are different genes than cream, the Citroen are based on gold and cream both homzygous(hemizygous gold for hens), you can have a cream silver bird, but they will look silver so you wont see the cream

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

hey thats so cool, I´m doing the same, so we can exchange info between us, my buff hen is segregating Blue and a gene that acts like Charcoal(recessive melanizer) aside from the usual Db, Mh, Di

sounds good to me. Been working it for 2 years now. Getting there, but so far about the same as yours looking like. doing it in the d'anver for now, but want to start breeding it into the bantam phoenix too. Just takes a while.

Really would like to find some dutch to get a true cream gene to start working into these as well, but they have been hard to find. Dont really trust the hatchery stock, been burned on "colors" before from project work with them. They never seem to grow into what they said they were

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

Citroen and Cream are one and the same, but the correct name for the gene is Cream, Citroen or Citron is just a shade of gold

yep it seems to be one of those trade names folks have decided to tag on to the variety.
Kinda like self blue and lavender

 

[nicalandia]

yep it seems to be one of those trade names folks have decided to tag on to the variety.
Kinda like self blue and lavender

well once we isolate Dilute we can call it the "Lemon" gene.... like Black Breasted Lemon, or Blue Breasted Lemon, or just Lemon...

hey show us some pics... I went the Birchen way instead of the wiltype way because I figured that after some generations I should be geting Lemon Birchen... but my cochin is naked neck and is also giving me some recessive melanizers I was not expecting....

here is a Thread I opened at the classroom at the coop
http://www.the-coop.org/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=106278&nt=7&page=1

my BC1 roo(back cross to Buff)


BC1. she is ER/eWh but completely melanized



my youngest cockerel he is the cross of BC1xBC1 melanized parents..

I´ll be crossing him to wildtype this season

 

[flyingmonkeypoop]

Aubrey, I will be crossing my cream legbar to some phoenix bantams. The legbars are cream light brown. I think we're going to breed the legbar rooster to some silver phoenix pullets which should give light brown crele looking pullets and brassy silver crele cockerels that are all carriers of cream. I have a crele cockerel that is from the same rooster but on brown leghorn hens so I figure if I cross him to the crele 1/2 phoenix pullets, I should get some cream crele birds. From there, I plan to keep the best birds and mate them to light browns and go from there.
I also have some crele colored pullets (1/2 legbar, 1/2 leghorn) that carry crele that I might mate to a phoenix cockerel which would give just plain light brown pullets that will carry cream. In the end, I want to have some cream light brown and cream legbar style phoenix (autosexing crele) but they should all lay blue eggs, and depending on what I select for, some may have tufts/tassel/small crest and rose combs but that can all be bred out later...

 

[coffeekittie]

I am going to try something similar and cross my Citron Spangled Hamburg to my Bantam Phoenix. I have no idea what will happen, but very curious about the Cream, as I decided several months ago to work on getting it into my d'Uccles. Been watching this thread with interest for a while now, and appreciate all of the knowledgeable comments.

 

[nicalandia]

I am going to try something similar and cross my Citron Spangled Hamburg to my Bantam Phoenix. I have no idea what will happen, but very curious about the Cream, as I decided several months ago to work on getting it into my d'Uccles. Been watching this thread with interest for a while now, and appreciate all of the knowledgeable comments.

you will get gold spangled Phoenix like birds.....cream is recessive.. so you wont be getting any cream on this first cross, select the best birds and mate them together