The Health Care Law.

[RHRanch]

I was talking about small scale communal living. I reallllllly want to do this with the vacant juvenile detention center. Royd, if people don't want to do what needs to be done in the community, then they need to find another path for their lives. The community will need people to cook, clean, perform maintenance, childcare, take care of the animals and garden....if they want to pay rent, they are free from much of the communal work. The community will need money too, so independent work is very helpful! I only want those who want the arrangement to succeed to live in it. I think the housing is made for about 100 people.

There's no reason it couldn't work. There are examples of well run community gardens (some with livestock) in many cities. As long as you do your research and follow one of those examples of how to run a sucessfull garden, it should work perfectly! Waayyy to go, and good example of trying to uplift your community by giving access and opportunity to those who otherwise would not have a chance to garde. you know, I have a friend who lives in low income housing, and she has many times told me she wished that she could garden and grow some of her families food, but the most she can do on her patio is a tomato plant in the corner, and they are not allowed to set things on the rails or hang planters or pots. Its too bad, because the desire is there.

 

[Stephanie739]

I believe back in the 30's they called that a work camp. Dawn to dusk, three squares and a cot...What more could a man ask for.

I bet many homeless or less fortunate people will choose a bed, a roof over the heads, and some food each day in exchange for some work in the community.

 

[rebelcowboysnb]

If welfare an other similar things were ran county by county. Where each county had to support its county only, all this living off your neighbor junk would end. When your neighbor is actually the person next door abuse an misuse would go way down.


Farming community share food all the time. People that cant work get helped, people that just dont, quickly find there self on there own.

 

[Royd]

I was talking about small scale communal living. I reallllllly want to do this with the vacant juvenile detention center. Royd, if people don't want to do what needs to be done in the community, then they need to find another path for their lives. The community will need people to cook, clean, perform maintenance, childcare, take care of the animals and garden....if they want to pay rent, they are free from much of the communal work. The community will need money too, so independent work is very helpful! I only want those who want the arrangement to succeed to live in it. I think the housing is made for about 100 people.

But a socialist govt. doesn't care whether you are happy about the task at hand. Freeloaders and dissidents have a way of disappearing.

 

[RHRanch]

I bet many homeless or less fortunate people will choose a bed, a roof over the heads, and some food each day in exchange for some work in the community.

I agree with you.... People who are hopeless get depressed and apathetic. People who have opportunity and access to improve their situations generally do so.

 

[RHRanch]

If welfare an other similar things were ran county by county. Where each county had to support its county only, all this living off your neighbor junk would end. When your neighbor is actually the person next door abuse an misuse would go way down.


Farming community share food all the time. People that cant work get helped, people that just dont, quickly find there self on there own.

Such a good point! Thats why community initiatives like community gardens, hiring local workers, and things like that are they way to go when it comes to solving social problems.

 

[Stephanie739]

There's no reason it couldn't work. There are examples of well run community gardens (some with livestock) in many cities. As long as you do your research and follow one of those examples of how to run a sucessfull garden, it should work perfectly! Waayyy to go, and good example of trying to uplift your community by giving access and opportunity to those who otherwise would not have a chance to garde. you know, I have a friend who lives in low income housing, and she has many times told me she wished that she could garden and grow some of her families food, but the most she can do on her patio is a tomato plant in the corner, and they are not allowed to set things on the rails or hang planters or pots. Its too bad, because the desire is there.

The community garden is still going, year number two. Another similar program about 40 miles south of me opened this year with more help from the state, and it is working with WIC and so far seems to be seeing good success. The people who eat the produce help in the garden too.
I want to expand into poultry, livestock, and living arrangements.

What you said about your friend is a sad part of today's society. At least she has a desire to grow some food. Some people don't have any idea how to produce their own food.

 

[Royd]

There's no reason it couldn't work. There are examples of well run community gardens (some with livestock) in many cities. As long as you do your research and follow one of those examples of how to run a sucessfull garden, it should work perfectly! Waayyy to go, and good example of trying to uplift your community by giving access and opportunity to those who otherwise would not have a chance to garde. you know, I have a friend who lives in low income housing, and she has many times told me she wished that she could garden and grow some of her families food, but the most she can do on her patio is a tomato plant in the corner, and they are not allowed to set things on the rails or hang planters or pots. Its too bad, because the desire is there.

They were called communes back in the 60's and 70's. The problem is that human nature simply cannot be overcome. Some people see themselves as worthy of a position of power, and think their supposed skills at organizing and motivation are superior to some one who is happy just producing day in and day out.Soon, they demand a bigger piece of the pie. The largest lot on the cul de sac, the prime parking spot, so that they don't get pine sap on their newly aquired Prius, on and on, Next thing you know, they are incorporating for some political advantage over the commune down the road.

 

[Stephanie739]

But a socialist govt. doesn't care whether you are happy about the task at hand. Freeloaders and dissidents have a way of disappearing.

but but but...bleh bleh bleh
What exactly are you objecting to or fearing from such an experiment? Too much government ordered work or success of the project? (ugh! communism!

) It would still be 100% free will. If people are not happy, they are free to leave.

 

[Stephanie739]

But you miss the fault in all of the socialist thinking...Wouldn't it be wonderful if we all woke with a sunny dispostion to the first crow of the cock, bounced out of the house,before the first cup of coffee, milkpail in hand, to give Ol' Bess a 15 minute massage.

The problem is, that night person, who just isn't going to get with the Rebecca Sunnybrook program for happy living. They either get harrassed, punished or banished.

I need night time babysitters! I believe there will be inhabitants who will probably want to continue their night shift work at the factory too.

The arrangement would be like a contract. Inhabitants agree to certain criteria before moving in.