The IMPORTED ENGLISH Orpington Thread

[thedragonlady]

I would also like to know this.

If you use a true black carrying red over your lavenders, you will get red leakage on your males. You need a black male carrying SILVER to breed to them. Those males come from good BBS breeders.

 

[rockinpaints]

If you use a true black carrying red over your lavenders, you will get red leakage on your males. You need a black male carrying SILVER to breed to them. Those males come from good BBS breeders.

I don't think we have any blacks carrying red. I believe I know what you are taking about. Our blacks are either from black to black or black to blue and weren't out crossed to any other colors to my knowledge. Thank you!

 

[Renie'sPeeps]

So when you have a blue with red on it... then the sire was most likely a black/gold??

 

[Renie'sPeeps]

I don't think we have any blacks carrying red. I believe I know what you are taking about. Our blacks are either from black to black or black to blue and weren't out crossed to any other colors to my knowledge. Thank you!

That doesn't mean it wasn't carrying it to begin with... and if you have the green sheen... which pretty sure you do... then..... you have the black/gold which means if I am understanding this correct..... red is there too

 

[galanie]

I think I have that right. I keep talking about gold/silver when I should be mentally sticking the red in there.

 

[Renie'sPeeps]

Ok here is fly in the soup for you... umm Soo would the purple sheen blacks that are said to be blacks with too much blue in them.. be the right color to breed to the Lavs??

 

[aveca]

Im wondering..If they pull a feather , can they tell by the quill? red or silver? People show the underfluff but Judges in britian sometimes pull one feather check the quill..They know which area of the body to take one..I do not..I suppose anywhere but Im not sure.. I had an old british polutry book in the home PC kindle..it was a google free book I think, might have been cornell library, it was like a like a handbook..My nephew recomemded it..When we got the laptop I didnt move it over..it might have been an article..If I find it again , I will post it..I cant remember ..there was a show article with it where the competiton was so tough in a couple classes , it came down to the quill..it was interesting..But I am just learning all this..you guys know a lot more than I do about this.

 

[aveca]

Ok here is fly in the soup for you... umm Soo would the purple sheen blacks that are said to be blacks with too much blue in them.. be the right color to breed to the Lavs??

Somone posted some interesting things on another site about this..I was reading for hours over there..sometimes they can get stress barring, a purple barring from illness ect..some say it is in diet..some just genetics..great information from that lady, a lot to think about..she does a lot of research and lots of experience.

.Ray connor ..17 time sydney royal champion raises top australorp which have exactly same requirement for showing..green sheen in blk feather ..He said in his book... purpeling is caused by too much green in the breeding shed..he chooses females that are the flat black sometimes to keep the green sheen at peak in his flock..purpleing is the bane of blk poultry breeders..it went into some detail about this..I gave it to a freind..Maybe he can copy that chapter for me...winning sydney royal top bird 17 times is unheard of..and he never breeds over 30 birds a year...its an art..Ray is in his 90s now..Beginner to expert could take something away from that book..australian australorp were based in english blk orp and langshan.with a pinch of leghorn.

 

[pips&peeps]

If you use a true black carrying red over your lavenders, you will get red leakage on your males. You need a black male carrying SILVER to breed to them. Those males come from good BBS breeders.

Most times a black that carries silver will have lighter slate blue legs instead of black.

 

[galanie]

I was told on the Heritage Large Fowl thread that there is no way visually to know if a black carries the red or not, that you'd have to test breed to see. And that the sheen is simply an indication of good condition. Green - great, purple - not. I've heard about breeding to a "flat black" too. It's been said here that the green is the reflection of the light off the texture of the feathers. That feather texturing makes the sheen. So one could well be flat black though how that all translates I'd never begin to guess. I'd trust the experienced breeders to know, though!