The IMPORTED ENGLISH Orpington Thread




Ok everyone here r a couple updated photos of the white English Orp chick I hatched from a Big blue roo over a very big black hen. Altho some of his/her brood mates like to use him/her as toilet paper and he/she is not the cleanest. He/she is still feathering in solid white so far with solid white wings and tail and white shoulder feathers have begun coming in. This chick is doing very well still and growing like a weed. If u compare to previous pictures u can see the beak and especially the legs r becoming lighter with age instead of darker so I expect they will be fully white also in the next week or so. Is it just me or is this chick starting to look a bit roostery? I still havnt named it yet as Im waiting to see what sex it is. Right now I still call it the oddball chick.
Sure does look White to me! Congratulations!
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It will be fun watching this baby grow.
 
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Thanks I paired these 2 together to get some nice blacks that I could also use in my lav and chocolate project but instead I get the opposite and come out with a white chick that started out yellow. I have kept these 2 birds paired and have been setting every egg hoping by some slim chance this will repeat itself but so far just blue a black chicks as anyone would expect. I will def let everyone know if this does happen again and will keep everyone posted on this guy. I am taking extra special care of this one and all I know to do now is if I do manage to raise it is too cross it back over its parent or another bird and cross it back over its offspring. I really don't want to cross it to the other line(s) of whites that have been recently imported as I have yet to have a chick with any leg feathers and would like to create a separate line of whites that breed true for new blood. I will def be open to suggestions an advice if I am lucky enough to raise this chick to breeding age on how to make more.
 
First,
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You picked a great thread to get your feet wet in, I'm sure you'll become English Orp obsessed in no time!
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Genetically they are the same color, Crele, which is a partridge base with barring... there are many mock examples of Crele but the only way to have a true breeding bird that exhibits the same color pattern generation after generation is by breeding barred partridge birds. In some breeds of chicken Black Breasted Red (BBR) is used in place of the partridge base and yields a similar result.

The difference between the males and females is males have 2 copies of the barring gene and females only have one. Males appear a lighter color than the females for this reason. "Legbar" is just a hobby name associated with the color. Similar to "Jubilee" which essentially are just Mille Fleur birds with the mahogany gene to deepen the ground color from gold to deep red.

I believe what Marc meant to say was that hens can never be double barred like their male counterparts, there are female Legbar Orpingtons, so you easily can call a hen a Legbar... or I could call them a duckbar or even a purple polka dotted ostrichbar, but genetically that doesn't change the "recipe" for what it really is.

Male Crele/Legbar Orpington.
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Female Crele/Legbar Orpington.
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Thank you Marc and Jeremy. I am still a bit confused i guess but i will figure it out. I can 't find them now, but I could have sworn the original pictures posted by rockinpaints showed 2 different colorations of birds. one appeared to be the more traditional Crele and the other was barred on the wings like the photo above. Thank you all for your hospitality. The Isabelle coloration is beautiful on the Orps as well. I have seen that color pattern on other breeds before, but not Orps. The huge imported Orpingtons sure are beautiful, no matter what the color.
 
It has been a really long time since I posted pictures of the Blue Orps..though it was time
They are 6 months and growing so nicely. The cockerel's chest is filling in well. In another 6 months he should be outstanding.





He really likes having all of the egg layers. I have some big girls. He makes them look dainty.
 
I really like him too..sweet disposition..easy to handle. Good with kids and dogs. He is good with the girls..a little ruff, but he is young and learning. my bator is full and all the eggs are fertile, so he is doing his job.
 

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