The IMPORTED ENGLISH Orpington Thread

[thedragonlady]

Just a peep at my 100% English Buff chick progress:








I do have more and more hatching

Pretty golden kids !

 

[aveca]

There looking great you busy little hatcher renie.. those chocolate are dorable.

 

[Renie'sPeeps]

Thanks gals Yes I have been very busy

 

[jimmythechicken]

Just a peep at my 100% English Buff chick progress:








I do have more and more hatching

loved your buffs they where so pretty.cant wait to see these little buggers grow out.debbie has a pen of buff girls with buff blue roo she hatches ee looking orpingtons from them will have to post picks they all look the same.people lovethe strange colors for egg layers an back yard flocks.

 

[ElitePoultry]

Here is a little peep at the English Chocolates Don sent us.

Just a peep at my 100% English Buff chick progress:








I do have more and more hatching

Chocolate chips and sugar cookies are back!!

 

[Renie'sPeeps]

Chocolate chips and sugar cookies are back!!

LOL that is soo cute... lol

 

[Phantom_Rooster]

Just a peep at my 100% English Buff chick progress:








I do have more and more hatching

They are nice Renie. I know you are enjoying watching them grow into Big Fluffy chickens.

 

[Renie'sPeeps]

They are nice Renie. I know you are enjoying watching them grow into Big Fluffy chickens.

Yes I am.. very exciting everytime I see a pipped egg.. lol

 

[boykin2010]

Hi Marc, Jeremy and poultryluvr.
From the research and discussions that I have had with my contacts in the U.K., Legbar and Crele are indeed two totally separate colors. Both roosters and hens can be called Legbar.

Legbar is a complicated color which took many years of breeding to develop. Partridge was not used in the making of Legbar as the partridge coloration did not exist at the time of Legbar’s creation. Legbar basically is a Cuckoo X Buff X Gold Laced according to breeders/geneticists in Europe. Of course, it is not that simple as it takes MANY years of culling and breeding to get the colors right. The creator is said to have spent over 20 years perfecting this unique and wonderful coloration (Legbar).

Crele Orpingtons are just a Buff to a Cuckoo with many years of selective breeding, but it does not have partridge base either – as it did not exist at the time.

I want to thank Sandra Hildreth along with other breeders such as Bob Follows, Grant Brereton and David Pownall for spending so much time breeding these birds and providing information to me and others to help clear up misinterpretations about the colors. Please see the excerpt below of a BYC post from Sandra from back in February 2012.

"No way was a Partridge orpington used in the creation of the Legbar Orpington. It took a very clever Swedish breeder over 20 years to create. The LEGBAR ORPINGTON was mentioned in "Fancy Fowl" magazine when they interviewed one of the top Orpington breeders, David Pownall who is also known to be one of the top and best show people as well, who collected every accolade in the breeding and showing of his Orpingtons.
He brought the LEGBAR ORPINGTON over and won with it at the National and the Federation Champion Shows."


Below you will see the first picture is of a Crele Orpington Rooster, and the 2nd picture is of a Legbar Orpington Rooster. Photo credits to Ms. Sandra Hildreth who is allowing me to use her photos in explaining the colors as she has been following along with the information on the thread. The difference in the two colors when compared side-by-side is pretty clear to me.

Hope this helps clear some confusion as I know many people are asking the same question as you poultryluvr.

Below: Crele Orpington Rooster and then a Legbar Orpington Rooster.

 

[delisha]

Thank you for taking this time to post this additional information. I enjoy reading every thing about English Orpingtons.