The IMPORTED ENGLISH Orpington Thread

[ElitePoultry]

Those chicks are rediculously cute!! Ive got some hatching out tonight!!!!

 

[chickened]

Hay everyone. Some new Pics of my ELCO







VIVI

Where did you get english lemon cuckoo?

 

[vebyrd36]

Mine came from Richard. I just got two roosters from Mrs. Julie in Austin this week to replace mine I lost to a turkey attack. Julie raises lavender cuckoo mottles if I'm correct, so she sold her ELCO off.

VIVI

 

[Christabelle]

Hay everyone. Some new Pics of my ELCO VIVI

Beautiful birds!

 

[Christabelle]

I've got partridge Orpingtons coming next week!!! I'm so excited! Yay!!

 

[vebyrd36]

Those are nice birds as well. The ELCO are very calm birds or at least mine are. They are as calm as my other orpingtons.

VIVI

 

[gfvanvleck]

I enjoyed reading this. Thank you

 

[chickened]

Mine came from Richard. I just got two roosters from Mrs. Julie in Austin this week to replace mine I lost to a turkey attack. Julie raises lavender cuckoo mottles if I'm correct, so she sold her ELCO off.

VIVI

Thank you

 

[lualshannon]

Hi Marc, Jeremy and poultryluvr.
From the research and discussions that I have had with my contacts in the U.K., Legbar and Crele are indeed two totally separate colors. Both roosters and hens can be called Legbar.

Legbar is a complicated color which took many years of breeding to develop. Partridge was not used in the making of Legbar as the partridge coloration did not exist at the time of Legbar’s creation. Legbar basically is a Cuckoo X Buff X Gold Laced according to breeders/geneticists in Europe. Of course, it is not that simple as it takes MANY years of culling and breeding to get the colors right. The creator is said to have spent over 20 years perfecting this unique and wonderful coloration (Legbar).

Crele Orpingtons are just a Buff to a Cuckoo with many years of selective breeding, but it does not have partridge base either – as it did not exist at the time.

I want to thank Sandra Hildreth along with other breeders such as Bob Follows, Grant Brereton and David Pownall for spending so much time breeding these birds and providing information to me and others to help clear up misinterpretations about the colors. Please see the excerpt below of a BYC post from Sandra from back in February 2012.

"No way was a Partridge orpington used in the creation of the Legbar Orpington. It took a very clever Swedish breeder over 20 years to create. The LEGBAR ORPINGTON was mentioned in "Fancy Fowl" magazine when they interviewed one of the top Orpington breeders, David Pownall who is also known to be one of the top and best show people as well, who collected every accolade in the breeding and showing of his Orpingtons.
He brought the LEGBAR ORPINGTON over and won with it at the National and the Federation Champion Shows."


Below you will see the first picture is of a Crele Orpington Rooster, and the 2nd picture is of a Legbar Orpington Rooster. Photo credits to Ms. Sandra Hildreth who is allowing me to use her photos in explaining the colors as she has been following along with the information on the thread. The difference in the two colors when compared side-by-side is pretty clear to me.

Hope this helps clear some confusion as I know many people are asking the same question as you poultryluvr.

Below: Crele Orpington Rooster and then a Legbar Orpington Rooster.

Gorgeous birds! Play of their coloration is mesmerizing. I am in love with the Legbar Orpinton!

 

[Renie'sPeeps]

A few of my 4 day olds. I have some really nice blue and splash chicks growing out and just put four black Orp eggs in to hatch. Sure am hoping they all hatch but sad that only one of my hens is laying. I want some off of them all. These were the only fertiles for last week and all hatched. I am having more fertiles every week when I candle. Spring time makes things work so much better for the older Cocks for my birds anyway.

Lovin Spoonfuls.. lol