The IMPORTED ENGLISH Orpington Thread

I would really love some opinions from you guys regarding this bird... He's my best black cockrel, around 71/2 months old in this pic, but I'm still not quite happy with his lower breast/chest development. Also, I think his tail is a tad high, although he never carries it at such an acute angle to be considered a squirrel tail. He's quite broad, and has filled out considerably since I posted pics of him 6 weeks ago. Maybe he will continue to fill out and surprise me. The second pic is of the same bird 6 wks ago.


He should, however, help tighten up the feathering I have on my pullets for the next generation. But the question really is... should I even use him? I think he looks pretty good if he were an American- type, though.
 
Are you breeding for English typed birds? Or American?

I'm assuming American, as you mentioned he would tighten the feathering of resulting offspring... if American SOP type birds are you goal, he looks like a decent bird. His chest is a bit shallow for my liking. Orps, whether UK or American should have a full, rounded, barrel chest. His tail isn't squirreled, & his backline is fine for an American bird.

His wings are a bit droopy for my liking, I'd prefer them to be more horizontal, with the tips tucked neatly underneath his saddle feathers.
 
Thanks for the confirmation Jeremy!

I prefer the English type and lots of fluff, but my pullets are fluffy and have loose feathering almost to an extreme. I'm very pleased with their type, so I'm hoping that I'll get some improvement in feathering, but keep the English body conformation. I just don't want to go through the trouble of hatching out and raising 50 chicks if none are worth keeping for 2016.
 
Has anyone else had this color, and what color would he be? Parents of this little bantam Orpington rooster are a Black spilt to chocolate English father and a black American mother. His wings are the iridescent color like the hackles at his tail. His chest, butt and underside are black.
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Has anyone else had this color, and what color would he be? Parents of this little bantam Orpington rooster are a Black spilt to chocolate English father and a black American mother. His wings are the iridescent color like the hackles at his tail. His chest, butt and underside are black.
I have some like him. I call them Birchen but not sure if that is actually correct. I have blue and black roosters and hens with the same coloration. I have been working on the color for 5+ years, however my parents colors were different than yours.
 
I have some like him.  I call them Birchen but not sure if that is actually correct.  I have blue and black roosters and hens with the same coloration.   I have been working on the color for 5+ years, however my parents colors were different than yours.   

I've asked several places and you are the first to have any. I had no idea what to call his color, I had googled Birchen and it kind of - sort of fit what he looks like.
I'm putting him over four black hen and will hatch out some eggs next month. I'm anxious to see if any of his offspring looks like this. He is gorgeous, this photo doesn't do him justice. I'd love to see this in the blue, let me know if you ever sell any of the eggs.
 
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I have some like him. I call them Birchen but not sure if that is actually correct. I have blue and black roosters and hens with the same coloration. I have been working on the color for 5+ years, however my parents colors were different than yours.

He's really pretty, but obviously there are more genes at work here than just black and chocolate. If you have pure black and/or chocolate in any combination, and only breed those two colors and/or their splits, you should only get more black and chocolate unless there are hidden recessive colors. For example, if someone bought a black/lav split as a black and bred it, they could wind up with unexpected lavs in later generations if they bred related birds that both carried the lavender recessive (to black). Sometimes those surprises are really cool, though. Other times, if you are a hard core breeder/exhibitor, they could be really embarrassing and would be something one might try to hide.
 
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