The IMPORTED ENGLISH Orpington Thread

[LaylaFlora]

Hello Orpington People! Maybe you can help me regarding a buff variety.

Does a chick with a yellow beak sometimes change to white?

Thanks in advance!

 

[rockinpaints]

Hello Orpington People! Maybe you can help me regarding a buff variety.

Does a chick with a yellow beak sometimes change to white?

Thanks in advance!

How old is the chick and how yellow is the beak, are the legs yellow as well? Got a pic?

 

[LaylaFlora]

How old is the chick and how yellow is the beak, are the legs yellow as well? Got a pic?

?He? is 9 weeks old. About half the beak is yellow. The legs are white.

Here is a pick at 1-2 weeks-ish?


Here is a pic from today.

 

[rockinpaints]

?He? is 9 weeks old. About half the beak is yellow. The legs are white.

Here is a pick at 1-2 weeks-ish?


Here is a pic from today.

The leg color and skin color is very important, and yellow is never acceptable. Skin and leg color generally do not change, but I think his beak could. I say "generally do not change" because I have seen lots of baby chicks legs look "tanish/yellowish" as babies but will be pink as they mature. I have never seen just a beak or 1/2 beak yellow, if they are yellow pigmented, skin, beak and legs are all yellow usually. If you plan on using him for breeding and his beak is still yellow as an adult I guess I wouldn't use him for breeding.

If you look closely at pictures on market places such as Ebay, there are a lot of eggs advertises as "orpingtons" where the adults pictured clearly have yellow skin. I know I am not the "Orpington Police"

but I have emailed several of them (in case they truly do not realize what they are selling is not what it is supposed to be). But most that I have emailed have not responded but did remove the "pictures" where you can clearly see the yellow legs/beak and still advertise the birds as "pure imported orpingtons"

. Specific auctions were buffs, silver laced and gold laced. The gentleman who had the buffs did email back and said "most" of his buffs in his breeding pens have pink skin (he did remove the pictures of the yellow skinned birds).

I know it does happen from time to time as sometimes genetics that were used to create a color/variety will crop up in subsequent generations in any breeding program. However, it is always wise to not use those birds for reproduction.

Good luck!

 

[greenbeetle]

I bought several chocolate orpington chicks from a reputable breeder. They are about 5 weeks old now. One of them looks like it has slight feathering on it's legs, is that normal?

 

[rockinpaints]

I bought several chocolate orpington chicks from a reputable breeder. They are about 5 weeks old now. One of them looks like it has slight feathering on it's legs, is that normal?

Yes that is common with the English Orps, though not desirable. It is nearly impossible to not get any feathering at all on some imported lines. It is believed (and I have read) that to create some of the colors they were crossed with Cochins in England generations ago. And it will still show up from time to time. It is best not to use the ones with feathers and with each generation you will see fewer and fewer until only on a rare occasion will any be visible. Another through back from generations past.

With limited breeding genetics sometimes it is not always possible, but best to try to avoid it, although they have been shown with some slight feathering. Yellow skin though is a disqualification, not just a fault.

I think yellow skin is harder to breed out of than leg feathering..........

 

[McCoyPoultry]

Hello I was wondering if anyone knew about laced orp genetics. I have a Golden Laced Roo over two of my Silver Laced Hens and I was reading for hours last night and found a great website. but.... it was explaining what would happen if I had a Silver Roo over Golden Hens. So I was wondering if anyone knew what would be the offsprings of a Golden Roo over a Silver Hen? Thanks

 

[Heron's Nest Farm]

Hello I was wondering if anyone knew about laced orp genetics. I have a Golden Laced Roo over two of my Silver Laced Hens and I was reading for hours last night and found a great website. but.... it was explaining what would happen if I had a Silver Roo over Golden Hens. So I was wondering if anyone knew what would be the offsprings of a Golden Roo over a Silver Hen? Thanks

What website were you on? Please share

 

[McCoyPoultry]

What website were you on? Please share

i have no idea I never thought to save to the website

 

[greenbeetle]

Yes that is common with the English Orps, though not desirable. It is nearly impossible to not get any feathering at all on some imported lines. It is believed (and I have read) that to create some of the colors they were crossed with Cochins in England generations ago. And it will still show up from time to time. It is best not to use the ones with feathers and with each generation you will see fewer and fewer until only on a rare occasion will any be visible. Another through back from generations past.

With limited breeding genetics sometimes it is not always possible, but best to try to avoid it, although they have been shown with some slight feathering. Yellow skin though is a disqualification, not just a fault.

I think yellow skin is harder to breed out of than leg feathering..........

thanks so much for the information. It is greatly appreciated.