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Mine get to scratch around. They need the green stuff IMHO.
Mine get to scratch around. They need the green stuff IMHO.
The IMPORTED ENGLISH Orpington Thread
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Mine get to scratch around. They need the green stuff IMHO.
I didn't think that sounded right and unless we're ready to hatch I didnt think it would be a problem to let them out with the others. They will be penned seperately
The only thing I would recommend is separating any pullets/hens you plan to show away from all roosters to prevent potential feather damage from possible breeding till after the show/s. My rooster runs with his girls full time, I just pull him out the night before for his bath and beauty regimen for the show the next day. Once we get home he goes right back in with the girls!
Mine get to scratch around. They need the green stuff IMHO.
I didn't think that sounded right and unless we're ready to hatch I didnt think it would be a problem to let them out with the others. They will be penned seperately
The only thing I would recommend is separating any pullets/hens you plan to show away from all roosters to prevent potential feather damage from possible breeding till after the show/s. My rooster runs with his girls full time, I just pull him out the night before for his bath and beauty regimen for the show the next day. Once we get home he goes right back in with the girls!
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Maybe we all use the word "split" loosely as someone said..... maybe "cross-line" is a better term. No matter which term you choose - at the end of the day - it is not an Pure English Orpington or (IMHO) should be called an English Orpington for that matter. I cannot disagree with the person earlier calling the bird an American-English Orpington rather than split.
In closing we should enjoy the beauty of these birds no matter what they are.....but just for sake of the cause - call it like it is.
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Maybe we all use the word "split" loosely as someone said..... maybe "cross-line" is a better term. No matter which term you choose - at the end of the day - it is not an Pure English Orpington or (IMHO) should be called an English Orpington for that matter. I cannot disagree with the person earlier calling the bird an American-English Orpington rather than split.
In closing we should enjoy the beauty of these birds no matter what they are.....but just for sake of the cause - call it like it is.
I don't say splits unless it is a gene you can't see. Choc split, lavender split...etc.
I am very upfront about what my birds are/were. That they have English blood and American blood and that when I was culling I was going for the English type. I have seen some 1/2 blood English that are just gorgeous! Julie has been breeding for several generations now from Charlie and his offspring, and unless she has gotten some 100% from someone, then most of her birds are not pure English. But just from looking at them can you tell? I can tell you when I was at her home last November, I would have taken ANYTHING she had raised. They were so lovely. WE (as a group) are getting to the point where selective breeding and culling are producing some stunning birds that are not 100%.
I read an article on improving the type of a certain bird. The gentleman used a silver roo to improve his red flock. He did this for several generations since all the girl chicks hatched were red. At the end his birds were red but their genetics were 90%+ silver.
I think soon it is going to get really murky, when you get to birds that look 100% English and aren't.
I, if I ever get to that point, will use the term "English Type." And then there will be the difference between 100% and one with good genetics and breeding practices.
I am sorry if this makes no sense, my 3 year old kept interrupting me.
I am very upfront about what my birds are/were. That they have English blood and American blood and that when I was culling I was going for the English type. I have seen some 1/2 blood English that are just gorgeous! Julie has been breeding for several generations now from Charlie and his offspring, and unless she has gotten some 100% from someone, then most of her birds are not pure English. But just from looking at them can you tell? I can tell you when I was at her home last November, I would have taken ANYTHING she had raised. They were so lovely. WE (as a group) are getting to the point where selective breeding and culling are producing some stunning birds that are not 100%.
I read an article on improving the type of a certain bird. The gentleman used a silver roo to improve his red flock. He did this for several generations since all the girl chicks hatched were red. At the end his birds were red but their genetics were 90%+ silver.
I think soon it is going to get really murky, when you get to birds that look 100% English and aren't.
I, if I ever get to that point, will use the term "English Type." And then there will be the difference between 100% and one with good genetics and breeding practices.
I am sorry if this makes no sense, my 3 year old kept interrupting me.
Renie'sPeeps :
Please understand it's not all about the money to some of us that do split the genes!
This is one of my babies from Feb 2011
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll216/ReniePeeps/DSC06764.jpg
Agree - it is not about the money. We feel it is more important to preserve the breed and produce quality over American-English quantity.
Please understand it's not all about the money to some of us that do split the genes!
This is one of my babies from Feb 2011
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll216/ReniePeeps/DSC06764.jpg
Agree - it is not about the money. We feel it is more important to preserve the breed and produce quality over American-English quantity.
Some of my 2 month old chicks........
Here's what we have so far...
The Blues.
& a Splash, the pictures do no justice in showing the sheer size of this "little one".
This chick is HUGE!
The Blues.
& a Splash, the pictures do no justice in showing the sheer size of this "little one".
Kathy, I can't wait 'till mine get to that age!
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Agree - it is not about the money. We feel it is more important to preserve the breed and produce quality over American-English quantity.
Your quality isn't the same as everyone else's, you shouldn't be putting people down just because they're working at doing something different then you, or are trying to avoid inbreeding.
Agree - it is not about the money. We feel it is more important to preserve the breed and produce quality over American-English quantity.
Your quality isn't the same as everyone else's, you shouldn't be putting people down just because they're working at doing something different then you, or are trying to avoid inbreeding.
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