The IMPORTED ENGLISH Orpington Thread

[delisha]

Got a few pic today of my young splash boy, I think he is going to be a monster, Only about 9-10 months old, What do yall think about him ? Where you at Julie ?

wow he sure is growing up really nice!

 

[Renie'sPeeps]

Typically the genetics would be different. From my understanding blacks typically carry the Gold gene whereas blues should have the silver gene to improve lacing. Also some blacks that come from blues that have good lacing will have a good green sheen with a lacing of flat black around the edge of the feather.

Ok then why are there blacks out there with a red feather on their necks and some have gold?

 

[Renie'sPeeps]

Thank you Sis for asking this question, I was way to busy to post. So now the hunt is on for me to find me a black hen. I will probably contact Christina Corpus like Cheryl from Omlete ranch told me last night on the phone. Maybe she has something.

VIVI

Your welcome. I not feeling so good this morning... headache, low grade fever, voice is shot here I go again with the flu

 

[deek]

I have never heard of one haveing trouble breeding because of the back being to short, this is common of the English import line from what pictures I have seen of a true import, remember the buff someone posted on here a while back he was the same way, I have been trying to get this for a while now, I am very happy with him.

I have three cockerels. The one with the shortest back (Rock Star) at 7 months is fertilizing 100% of the eggs. Doesn't matter which pen or pullet. The other cockerels that I have in breeding pens have a longer back. (Not long though. I don't personally care for long backs.) They haven't fertilized any eggs yet. I keep checking.

Now, I don't think just back length is responsible for what I am observing, but in my backyard, a shorter back on a cockerel doesn't seem to hurt.

 

[deek]

tkay, very pretty splash pullet. Boykin, the lacing is superb. Roger, that is one fine looking boy. Love him.

 

[vebyrd36]

Your welcome.   I not feeling so good this morning... headache, low grade fever,  voice is shot    here I go again with the flu

Take care of ueself. Let me know if u need anything.

VIVI

 

[Renie'sPeeps]

I went back and looked at pictures of Midas... yes his back is short too. He is able to get the job done I brought up the subject because fertility was an issue in some of the BBS's when they were first imported. Feather trimming has helped solve that issue Most of you know I come from a Pug breeder back ground. It is my opinion that breeding ultra short heavy boned pugs produce lovely puppies but most of them become grossly over done by the time they are 2 yrs old. They finish their championships fast because they look like mini adults but don't age gracefully and they don't have the stamina to stand at stud alone.

 

[Renie'sPeeps]

Ok then why are there blacks out there with a red feather on their necks and some have gold?

Oh and I forgot the blues with red feathers

Ok I think I am trying to hard

 

[aveca]

When you dont feel good its called cranky..you are over thinking..think its somthing can be worked out..or not..They have been breeding those shorter backed orps long time heavy feathers and wrong type of inbreeding more of a problem..

I had an australorp that sprouted a couple very red feathers..i mean rir red On his body..I thought it was odd but not that big of a deal..

 

[rebel yell]

The way I look at it is everything needs improvement no matter what it is, We are here to make the breed better & better year after year, When you stop trying to better your birds that's when you are going to get in a dam mess, throwing a rooster in to a flock of 12 hens trying to get SQ birds is a long shot, The question is can you reproduce that SQ bird ? only through selective breeding & single matting & hard culling will you hit that mark again. It takes time. I think starting with type is the first quality to look for & then color, this is just my opinion & the way I look at breeding, It works for me, Thrive to make them better each year, not to come to a stand still with them.