The IMPORTED ENGLISH Orpington Thread

[BamaChicken]

Thank you all so much.I appreciate all the encouragement. I know I am blessed but you all have really nice ones too. I am so thankful for all the imported Orps that have made it over here and hope in three years time we continue to see increase in enthusiasm for them all.

Larry thanks again for the rainwater recommendation. I am going to try and remember to collect some if it rains this next week. I need to work on my bucket on top of the incubator and get the valve cleaned out from the lime deposit. I am going to give that thing a good cleaning with clorox and air it out for a few weeks before I start hatching again.

 

[jeremy]

Julie your and Imogene's birds look spectacular. I bet you could give the Brits a run for their money at their shows across the pond.

 

[jeremy]

Yes they are blue to blue breeding and carry 2 copies of the blue gene. I'm not sure what it would produce breeding to white? Would you loose the lacing all together I wonder?

In the first generation, especially if you used Orps that were dominant White, you would most likely loose lacing and color altogether- including the gold parts of the bird. The resulting offspring would probably look somewhat Pyle like, a mostly white bird with gold/red leakage.

However the offspring would still retain the pattern genes necessary to breed what you want. From there you would outcross your F1 birds to Gold Laced Orpingtons. This should produce a number of colors, solid whites, laced Blues but including true White Laced Gold Orpingtons. Genetically they would be Gold Laced Orpingtons but the dominant White gene would mask the black parts of the birds, so the black lacing would become white.

It would take several generations to get color and lacing correct again but you would then have true breeding White Laced Gold birds without the gray leakage throughout their plumage. Much like a Buff Laced Polish.

Either way, they're a pretty bird.

 

[OSUman]

You would have to keep breeding Buff Laced to Buff Laced and select for the birds that dont have the blue specks showing in what should be the white part for breeders. It would take several generations.

They're technically know as "splash" of a breeding of blue to blue (patterned). In this case they are Blue Laced Gold to Blue Laced Gold. I'm not sure the lacing can be perfected like the buff laced in the BLRW. Does anyone know?

The way Bob Follows explained it: from BYC February 2nd 2012

"What we call buff laced here in the U.K. and they call buff laced white in europe, which explains the colour better, buff with white lacing, carries two copies of the blue gene as does splash and pyle which is produced from two blue partridge parents, any mating of blue to blue whether it be cuckoo, partridge, laced or any other pattern will produce a percentage of offspring carrying two copies of the blue gene ie: splash, if buff white laced is mated to gold/buff black laced all offspring will be laced blue, I hope this clears any confusion"


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[BamaChicken]

Julie your and Imogene's birds look spectacular. I bet you could give the Brits a run for their money at their shows across the pond.

Jeremy, just talking to some breeders over there it seems the price of feed and poor economy has hurt even at shows. I have heard them talking about poor turn out for shows. One friend told me it was less expensive to feed the bantams than a LF orp who didnt lay as good. If the enthusiam gathers over there again they can always get some from Germany. They really do a good job with the Orps.

 

[Margitas]

Thank you all so much.I appreciate all the encouragement. I know I am blessed but you all have really nice ones too. I am so thankful for all the imported Orps that have made it over here and hope in three years time we continue to see increase in enthusiasm for them all.

Larry thanks again for the rainwater recommendation. I am going to try and remember to collect some if it rains this next week. I need to work on my bucket on top of the incubator and get the valve cleaned out from the lime deposit. I am going to give that thing a good cleaning with clorox and air it out for a few weeks before I start hatching again.

 

[delisha]

Bama,,

I have a belly ache from all the beautiful pictures..

I love seeing the start of a new laced Orpington!

Please keep posting they eye candy!!

My first English are in the bator..

 

[rockinpaints]

In the first generation, especially if you used Orps that were dominant White, you would most likely loose lacing and color altogether- including the gold parts of the bird. The resulting offspring would probably look somewhat Pyle like, a mostly white bird with gold/red leakage.

However the offspring would still retain the pattern genes necessary to breed what you want. From there you would outcross your F1 birds to Gold Laced Orpingtons. This should produce a number of colors, solid whites, laced Blues but including true White Laced Gold Orpingtons. Genetically they would be Gold Laced Orpingtons but the dominant White gene would mask the black parts of the birds, so the black lacing would become white.

It would take several generations to get color and lacing correct again but you would then have true breeding White Laced Gold birds without the gray leakage throughout their plumage. Much like a Buff Laced Polish.



Either way, they're a pretty bird.

But I really like the tri-color..........

........More than the buff laced

This is a brahma consider to be "Lemon Pyle". Do ya think they are more on this line? From what i read Lemon Pyle is the cross of 2 blue partridge, basically splash. ( Mine are from 2 blue laced gold orp parents). So would I call them "splash" That might be a little confusing as there is already a splash (blue to blue)
Actually neither are an accepted color.

Any brahma people out there that might know?
Who ever owns these birds I just want to say they are stunning.

Here is another picture of lemon pyle in Brahmas

 

[deek]

I like the tri-color too! Could they be "Splashed Buff"?

 

[rockinpaints]

I like the tri-color too! Could they be "Splashed Buff"?

OK