Daisy was getting jealous. Ha!
She really is a sweet little chicken.
She really is a sweet little chicken.
The IMPORTED ENGLISH Orpington Thread
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Daisy was getting jealous. Ha!
She really is a sweet little chicken.
Michael, She is a cutie.
First,
Genetically they are the same color, Crele, which is a partridge base with barring... there are many mock examples of Crele but the only way to have a true breeding bird that exhibits the same color pattern generation after generation is by breeding barred partridge birds. In some breeds of chicken Black Breasted Red (BBR) is used in place of the partridge base and yields a similar result.
The difference between the males and females is males have 2 copies of the barring gene and females only have one. Males appear a lighter color than the females for this reason. "Legbar" is just a hobby name associated with the color. Similar to "Jubilee" which essentially are just Mille Fleur birds with the mahogany gene to deepen the ground color from gold to deep red.
I believe what Marc meant to say was that hens can never be double barred like their male counterparts, there are female Legbar Orpingtons, so you easily can call a hen a Legbar... or I could call them a duckbar or even a purple polka dotted ostrichbar, but genetically that doesn't change the "recipe" for what it really is.
Male Crele/Legbar Orpington.
Female Crele/Legbar Orpington.
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First,You picked a great thread to get your feet wet in, I'm sure you'll become English Orp obsessed in no time!
Genetically they are the same color, Crele, which is a partridge base with barring... there are many mock examples of Crele but the only way to have a true breeding bird that exhibits the same color pattern generation after generation is by breeding barred partridge birds. In some breeds of chicken Black Breasted Red (BBR) is used in place of the partridge base and yields a similar result.
The difference between the males and females is males have 2 copies of the barring gene and females only have one. Males appear a lighter color than the females for this reason. "Legbar" is just a hobby name associated with the color. Similar to "Jubilee" which essentially are just Mille Fleur birds with the mahogany gene to deepen the ground color from gold to deep red.
I believe what Marc meant to say was that hens can never be double barred like their male counterparts, there are female Legbar Orpingtons, so you easily can call a hen a Legbar... or I could call them a duckbar or even a purple polka dotted ostrichbar, but genetically that doesn't change the "recipe" for what it really is.
Male Crele/Legbar Orpington.
Female Crele/Legbar Orpington.
Wow Jeremy, Those are nice. Put me on the list. Please.
Thank you Renie!!!!
I love them!!!!
The Lacing Looks good already!!
Glad you like them EP.... hope they do great things for you.. The Post Office did a great job getting them to you in a speedy manner
Hi Jeremy,First,You picked a great thread to get your feet wet in, I'm sure you'll become English Orp obsessed in no time!
Genetically they are the same color, Crele, which is a partridge base with barring... there are many mock examples of Crele but the only way to have a true breeding bird that exhibits the same color pattern generation after generation is by breeding barred partridge birds. In some breeds of chicken Black Breasted Red (BBR) is used in place of the partridge base and yields a similar result.
The difference between the males and females is males have 2 copies of the barring gene and females only have one. Males appear a lighter color than the females for this reason. "Legbar" is just a hobby name associated with the color. Similar to "Jubilee" which essentially are just Mille Fleur birds with the mahogany gene to deepen the ground color from gold to deep red.
I believe what Marc meant to say was that hens can never be double barred like their male counterparts, there are female Legbar Orpingtons, so you easily can call a hen a Legbar... or I could call them a duckbar or even a purple polka dotted ostrichbar, but genetically that doesn't change the "recipe" for what it really is.
Male Crele/Legbar Orpington.
Female Crele/Legbar Orpington.
Indeed, that's what I meant. But I think we should stick with the names that the original breeders gave them. Once again, a legbar hen does not exist since she will never have the legbar or duck wing pattern of a double barred crele rooster.
Marc
Those are magnificent birds
Beautiful birds..no matter what they are called!
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Those are some very fine looking chicks.Glad you like them EP.... hope they do great things for you.. The Post Office did a great job getting them to you in a speedy manner
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