The IMPORTED ENGLISH Orpington Thread

[rockinpaints]

I'll try it, I guess. Sure would be nice not having to change bands.

Don't have babies yet. Have some in the incubator. My favorite hen Lola and Max's babies. Keeping my fingers crossed. I also have some from Nellie's gorgeous blacks. Man, they're spectacular. Not sure if those are fertile. I even plucked the blacks, but they're so fluffy...sure hope I get babies from them too!

Awww, I would love to see pics Dee

. I have a toe punch and want to try it but haven't done it yet.....I want to toe punch all my chicks. There are so many people who are selling birds that they say came from me and a lot of them did not. If I can permanently mark (almost like branding) them then there would be no question as to whether they were from me.

I am not meaning this to be radical but what's happening to the imported Orps is really sad. People are breeding two birds together and getting chicks that look similar to an imported version, then labeling them as coming from someone who actually has them (thedragonlady, Ewe Crazy Farm, Heirloom, etc etc etc - I think you get the picture)

Several times in the past 2 weeks I have corrected a few auctions I saw that said their birds originated from me, when, by the pictures they clearly did not. In each situation when we got to the bottom of it they were not what they were supposed to be. Unknown to the seller as they bought them from someone in good faith, spent a lot of money purchasing them and much time raising them, just to find out they were not what they were supposed to be.

I can take credit for a mess I made all by my self - I don't want to take credit for one that I didn't make

. I feel like the "poultry police" when I email someone about the wording in their auction

. All joking aside I think it is genetically important for people to know what that have, and equally important quality wise to know what they are likely to produce in future generations, otherwise the beautiful birds that were imported will be lost..............
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OK having said all that........Vicki, any suggestions on which toe to punch for permanent ID (the easy one)? Any adverse effects on the chicks or any situation that it should not be done? I am just going to punch one. Does it bleed

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[deek]

Yes, I too want to know what not to do as much as what to do.

This is not a great picture since it is from a video. This is one of Nellie's.

 

[RedReiner]

I'll try it, I guess. Sure would be nice not having to change bands.


Don't have babies yet. Have some in the incubator. My favorite hen Lola and Max's babies. Keeping my fingers crossed. I also have some from Nellie's gorgeous blacks. Man, they're spectacular. Not sure if those are fertile. I even plucked the blacks, but they're so fluffy...sure hope I get babies from them too!

Awww, I would love to see pics Dee .  I have a toe punch and want to try it but haven't done it yet.....I want to toe punch all my chicks.  There are so many people who are selling birds that they say came from me and a lot of them did not.  If I can permanently mark (almost like branding) them then there would be no question as to whether they were from me. 

I am not meaning this to be radical but what's happening to the imported Orps is really sad.  People are breeding two birds together and getting chicks that look similar to an imported version,  then labeling them as coming from someone who actually has them (thedragonlady, Ewe Crazy Farm, Heirloom, etc etc etc  - I think you get the picture) 

Several times in the past 2 weeks I have corrected a few auctions I saw that said their birds originated from me, when, by the pictures they clearly did not.  In each situation when we got to the bottom of it they were not what they were supposed to be.  Unknown to the seller as they bought them from someone in good faith, spent a lot of money purchasing them and much time raising them, just to find out they were not what they were supposed to be.

I can take credit for a mess I made all by my self - I don't want to take credit for one that I didn't make .  I feel like the "poultry police" when I email someone about the wording in their auction .  All joking aside I think it is genetically important for people to know what that have, and equally important quality wise to know what they are likely to produce in future generations, otherwise the beautiful birds that were imported will be lost..............
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OK having said all that........Vicki,  any suggestions on which toe to punch for permanent ID (the easy one)?  Any adverse effects on the chicks or any situation that it should not be done?  I am just going to punch one.  Does it bleed .........

at least you say something. seems like everyone has birds from so and so these days. apparently they all originated from a few people. Some of these people never even had the pattern or color in the first place! I have seen some that were said to be from you and I about feinted, I knew better... I should look into the toe punching I guess... sounds so dang mean though!!

 

[rockinpaints]

Yes, I too want to know what not to do as much as what to do.

This is not a great picture since it is from a video. This is one of Nellie's.

Oh Dee she IS beautiful!

Thank you for posting that picture.

 

[rockinpaints]

I remember someone saying on here awhile back that once you purchase a flock, and begin your breeding program, they become your own line as there is no way to verify what has been added to the mix genetically.

I think it is fine to say where you bought your birds, but not OK to say:

"My birds came from TheFancyChick - I bought them from Pam's cousin who bought them from Henry who got them at a swap meet from a guy up in Alabama who said he got them DIRECTLY for TheFancyChick."...........

Whaat.....

(the story is true, the names have been changed to protect the innocent

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[deek]

If you toe punched, which is permanent, and you ship me chicks, but my own toe punching is the same...then what? I guess since there are so many combinations the odds of that happening are low...? Just wondering

 

[rockinpaints]

If you toe punched, which is permanent, and you ship me chicks, but my own toe punching is the same...then what? I guess since there are so many combinations the odds of that happening are low...? Just wondering

Dee, you are always thinking......

......very good point, maybe I'll tattoo? Like in the wing bed? Permanent & discrete....

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Oh gosh, that could sure be a pain on hatch day. Microchip.......

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Oh what's a girl to do.....

 

[boykin2010]

Yes, I too want to know what not to do as much as what to do.

This is not a great picture since it is from a video. This is one of Nellie's.

WOW, what a great black hen.

And, I've got to agree with you Nellie. I thought I was the only one having to play "chicken police" with wordings on auction/web sites. But I am glad others are doing the same as it is important for potential buyers to know the truth before buying.

 

[deek]

If someone could custom make a punch for you...let's say a diamond instead of a circle...the offenders wouldn't be as likely to spend money on a custom punch...just thinking out of the box

 

[rockinpaints]

If someone could custom make a punch for you...let's say a diamond instead of a circle...the offenders wouldn't be as likely to spend money on a custom punch...just thinking out of the box

I think it wouldn't stay triangle though, I think it would revert to circle as the chick grew. I really like tattoo. I have a tattoo kit, maybe I could modify it, just a dot of purple, or green is a good color.....Hmmmmm