The Sizzle Thread!

[Theresa sla]

just for the folks that like seeing visually whats called what.....
this is a silkie (partridge boy)

this is a frizzled silkie notice the frizzled but still silkie feathering also a boy red blue calico

smooth sizzle black and silver mix (notice not silkie feathered making it a sizzle)

silver laced frizzled sizzle also non silkie or hard feathered

 

[Book]

See I thought the developing standard as that a Sizzle must have the normal hard feathers being frizzled, and then the normal silkie standards, (black skin, 5 toes) and that you just added "smooth" for the hard feathered smooth ones that just didn't fizzle but still meet the other requirements.

So I guess what I am asking is, is there no longer "just" a sizzle or does it now have to be modified with the term Frizzled if it is, or smooth?

 

[Theresa sla]

See I thought the developing standard as that a Sizzle must have the normal hard feathers being frizzled, and then the normal silkie standards, (black skin, 5 toes) and that you just added "smooth" for the hard feathered smooth ones that just didn't fizzle but still meet the other requirements.

So I guess what I am asking is, is there no longer "just" a sizzle or does it now have to be modified with the term Frizzled if it is, or smooth?

yes!!!
it save a lot of confusion at least in my opinion if you take the time to say what kind of sizzle you have.
i know lots of people say frizzled sizzles are just called sizzle, but its really going to problems later on...
problem #1 it makes people think sizzle are only the frizzled sizzle, and smooth sizzles are just mix breed mutts not worth breeding for, (yes i have heard that from multiple people!!)
#2 if the get recognized as there own breed it will hold them up from being properly classified.
if any thing the smooth sizzle would be just called sizzled, but the frizzled sizzles will always be called frizzled sizzles. because it is a sizzle plus the addition of the frizzle gene. just like you wouldn't call a frizzled cochin just a cochin and only qualify smooth cochin as smooth cochin.

but yes sizzles, weather they are frizzled or not should be held to the same standards as silkies in every regard except with hard non silkie feathers.

 

[ashtree]

yes!!!
it save a lot of confusion at least in my opinion if you take the time to say what kind of sizzle you have. 
i know lots of people say frizzled sizzles are just called sizzle, but its really going to problems later on...
problem #1 it makes people think sizzle are only the frizzled sizzle, and smooth sizzles are just mix breed mutts not worth breeding for, (yes i have heard that from multiple people!!)
#2 if the get recognized as there own breed it will hold them up from being properly classified.
if any thing the smooth sizzle would be just called sizzled, but the frizzled sizzles will always be called frizzled sizzles. because it is a sizzle plus the addition of the frizzle gene.  just like you wouldn't call a frizzled cochin just a cochin and only qualify smooth cochin as smooth cochin. 

but yes sizzles, weather they are frizzled or not should be held to the same standards as silkies in every regard except with hard non silkie feathers. 

I see the word sizzle as being a combination of the words frizzle and silkie and so I think "sizzle" says enough. When I see "smooth" I know it's not curly. Just my two cents.

 

[Book]

yes!!!
it save a lot of confusion at least in my opinion if you take the time to say what kind of sizzle you have.
i know lots of people say frizzled sizzles are just called sizzle, but its really going to problems later on...
problem #1 it makes people think sizzle are only the frizzled sizzle, and smooth sizzles are just mix breed mutts not worth breeding for, (yes i have heard that from multiple people!!)
#2 if the get recognized as there own breed it will hold them up from being properly classified.
if any thing the smooth sizzle would be just called sizzled, but the frizzled sizzles will always be called frizzled sizzles. because it is a sizzle plus the addition of the frizzle gene. just like you wouldn't call a frizzled cochin just a cochin and only qualify smooth cochin as smooth cochin.

but yes sizzles, weather they are frizzled or not should be held to the same standards as silkies in every regard except with hard non silkie feathers.

That makes total sense! Specially as one can't breed frizzle to frizzle, there needs to be smooth sizzles. Frizzle isn't a "breed" in america, we know it as a genetic change in many breeds. So it makes more sense to make the sizzle label define the hard feathered silkie standard breeding more true to frizzle sizzles.

 

[Theresa sla]

I see the word sizzle as being a combination of the words frizzle and silkie and so I think "sizzle" says enough. When I see "smooth" I know it's not curly. Just my two cents.

the name sizzle IS a combination of silkie and frizzle.
and rightfully so because it is a combination of silkie and any kind of frizzled chicken,(breed to silkie standards of corse)
but it get confusing because sizzles are not frizzled silkies like the name imply.
and if you breed a sizzle to a sizzle its great, but if you breed a frizzled sizzle with a frizzled sizzle you could get your self in trouble!!! that extra 2 seconds to type frizzled fills in the whole story. but most importantly for thoughs of us that are trying really hard to get them recognized as a true breed, calling the frizzled counter part of the sizzle breed simple a sizzle will never pass.
on the Facebook sizzle chat page we got the input of top poultry show judges, and all firmly agree smooth sizzles are the only ones that could be called simply sizzles. the frizzled counter part should always be listed as frizzled sizzles just like you would list a frizzled polish, frizzled cochin or frizzled silkie. its going to be a hard habit to break for some but worth doing in the long run for the sake of getting them their proper recognition.
but i don't mean to be bossy, call them what you wish. just wanted to let everyone the reasons why the names are incorrect if you want to show them in poultry shows, and also a tripping point when talking about breeding them. just think if one person thinks the smooths are the only ones simply call sizzles (like they would in a poultry show) and the other person thinks that frizzled sizzles are the only ones simply called sizzles. they could talk in circles when it could have been made clear very early on.

 

[ashtree]

the name sizzle IS a combination of silkie and frizzle.
and rightfully so because it is a combination of silkie and any kind of frizzled chicken,(breed to silkie standards of corse)
but it get confusing because sizzles are not frizzled silkies like the name imply.
and if you breed a sizzle to a sizzle its great, but if you breed a frizzled sizzle with a frizzled sizzle you could get your self in trouble!!! that extra 2 seconds to type frizzled fills in the whole story. but most importantly for thoughs of us that are trying really hard to get them recognized as a true breed, calling the frizzled counter part of the sizzle breed simple a sizzle will never pass.
on the Facebook sizzle chat page we got the input of top poultry show judges, and all firmly agree smooth sizzles are the only ones that could be called simply sizzles. the frizzled counter part should always be listed as frizzled sizzles just like you would list a frizzled polish, frizzled cochin or frizzled silkie. its going to be a hard habit to break for some but worth doing in the long run for the sake of getting them their proper recognition.
but i don't mean to be bossy, call them what you wish. just wanted to let everyone the reasons why the names are incorrect if you want to show them in poultry shows, and also a tripping point when talking about breeding them. just think if one person thinks the smooths are the only ones simply call sizzles (like they would in a poultry show) and the other person thinks that frizzled sizzles are the only ones simply called sizzles. they could talk in circles when it could have been made clear very early on.

This makes perfect sense. Thank you for explaining that.

 

[klantes]

Thank you for starting this thread - I think Sizzles are gorgeous and a whole lot of fun and I have two 15 week old Sizzles right now; a white splash and a coal black one. They are best buds and even though I gave them other names now I think of them as Tweedledee and Tweedledum since they walk around together like they're joined at the hip. Such great birds!

 

[why do birds]

Thank you for starting this thread - I think Sizzles are gorgeous and a whole lot of fun and I have two 15 week old Sizzles right now; a white splash and a coal black one. They are best buds and even though I gave them other names now I think of them as Tweedledee and Tweedledum since they walk around together like they're joined at the hip. Such great birds!

We have 3 birds, and 2 are sizzles, one smooth one frizzled. And they are never separated, best buddies. Poor other bird is a silkie and it looks like the 3rd wheel in the corner. The 2 sizzles fly together, roost together, it's awesome. They are so pretty! Sounds like you have quite a nice team and very lovely coloring too!

 

[Momma 2 silkies]

Thanks. Its for sale. I have 2 like it and I'm hooked. Can't wait to hatch more.