Those who need help in sexing peafowl

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By IB BS are you saying the chicks are a Split with IB BS or are you saying you got IB and BS chicks because If the male is a IB BS split and it's breed to a hen that appears to be an IB BS split then the chicks can be splits, IB, or BS. I thought BS peachicks had little color on the flight but still had white.
By IB I am referring to the color as opposed to green, by BS I am referring to the pattern as opposed to Barred wing.
The Male(father) appeared to be Black Shouldered no white anywhere, the Hen(mother) is pictured, all chicks for 3 years in a row appeared to be Black shouldered with no white anywhere. There were never any Barred wing chicks produced. All chicks were kept until they were around 2 years old, so I am referring to their feathers not being white at that age not as tiny little babies.
 
Any peacock with one copy of white eye gene shows a few oscilli ( about 20 or so ) with white in the middle contrary to with two copies where all the oscilli in his train show white. Split pied peafowl do not show white at all, any where as much as my observation goes. But, a darkpied ( with two copies of pied gene) does show white flights as well as a white throat patch. The hen in the top picture, is not showing any green on her neck. what all I see is charcoal. Therefore, I rule OUT Indiablue. Pieds and silverpieds pictures have been posted several times. we all have seen, none of the subjects in these pictures look like them. In the bottom picture I see a pied ( with one white and a pied gene) bird on the floor besides a white.
Again looks can be deceiving in pictures. She is an IB split to charcoal and pied hen I got from Deerman and is the mother of the two charcoals in the 1st picture. It is the way her head is turned the feathers are ruffled cause she is turning her head LOL here's a link with the same picture and others of her. She has a tiny latch under her chin and the charcoal coloring is a light frosting of her feathers LOL
https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/...rman-and-look-what-i-bought-home-lots-of-pics
 
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IF I may add , the spalldings, like the javas or other greens, have  a much tighter and taller crest that  one can clearly see and also varying degree of yellow very faint, or  light,  to, dark  yellow  on the face around the eye


These are only identifying features of birds that are phenotypically Spalding. Not all Spalding will exhibit these characteristics. It has been mentioned before that it is quite possible that there are very few, if any, pure blooded IB peafowl in North America. I've got a few birds that were purchased that did not phenotypically show any Spalding, but their offspring certainly are typical phenotype for Spalding.
 
These are only identifying features of birds that are phenotypically Spalding. Not all Spalding will exhibit these characteristics. It has been mentioned before that it is quite possible that there are very few, if any, pure blooded IB peafowl in North America. I've got a few birds that were purchased that did not phenotypically show any Spalding, but their offspring certainly are typical phenotype for Spalding.
I guess this could explain why the feedstore I go to now has a male that looks greenish? I'll see if I can get some pictures of him.

-Kathy
 
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Again looks can be deceiving in pictures. She is an IB split to charcoal and pied hen I got from Deerman and is the mother of the two charcoals in the 1st picture. It is the way her head is turned the feathers are ruffled cause she is turning her head LOL here's a link with the same picture and others of her. She has a tiny latch under her chin and the charcoal coloring is a light frosting of her feathers LOL
https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/...rman-and-look-what-i-bought-home-lots-of-pics
I agree with you my friend. But people judge based on what they see in the picture. No body can judge with 100% accuracy, looking at a single mis-leading picture posted, irrespective of their vast experience. It is lot of fun though for everybody.All peafowl are the most gorgeous looking pets.
 
You're right I forgot to give a # to the hen on the end. I need to know how to count. I thought all BS male look like an IB just with Black Shoulders instead of barring didn't know that it could go to different colors. Learned something new just there. So the chicks in my photo there mother came from an IB hen and a BS male. The chicks dad is a BS so they have two generations of BS. Calypso is the only chick he has had turn out like this. She might be a mutation. To me it sounds like pure BS father and mother. If anything she might have two generations of BS and 1 IB generation like a grandma or grandfather that is IB and the other was a BS and the one of the parents is a split and the other is BS.
 
You're right I forgot to give a # to the hen on the end. I need to know how to count. I thought all BS male look like an IB just with Black Shoulders instead of barring didn't know that it could go to different colors. Learned something new just there. So the chicks in my photo there mother came from an IB hen and a BS male. The chicks dad is a BS so they have two generations of BS. Calypso is the only chick he has had turn out like this. She might be a mutation. To me it sounds like pure BS father and mother. If anything she might have two generations of BS and 1 IB generation like a grandma or grandfather that is IB and the other was a BS and the one of the parents is a split and the other is BS.

Who is this reply meant for? Are the last 2 sentences your guess for my BS question?
 
I agree with you my friend. But people judge based on what they see in the picture. No body can judge with 100% accuracy, looking at a single mis-leading picture posted, irrespective of their vast experience. It is lot of fun though for everybody.All peafowl are the most gorgeous looking pets.
no harm done, it was just the angle the picture was taken. She turned her head and the feathers ruffled LMAO But your right wasn't the best of her but she was just an add on I really used the picture fot the male's train LOL
 
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