U.S. drought fallout . . . might it affect all of our ducks?

[Amiga]

noamkelp claims it helps strengthen shells, and yes, it provides vitamins, minerals and amino acids.

 

[Miss Lydia]

I take kelp everyday for thyroid support

 

[CelticOaksFarm]

x2 to Amiga, thanks for posting. I couldnt read the info sheet and here from my phone earlier.

 

[Iain Utah]

I have not followed this thread... but it seems that a discussion about what my vet told me about mazuri vs flockraiser has taken place so I feel compelled to at least comment as follows:

My vet, Scott Echols, dvm, diplomate ABVP (avian), with a special interest in nutrition and worked with Mazuri as a paid independent consultant when the recall this summer due to waterfowl toxicity deaths occurred, told me that he prefers I feed my geese a 50/50 blend of flockraiser and whole grains, instead of 100% mazuri, as the primary ingredient in Mazuri is ground corn.

I know dog vets that swear Royal Canin is the best dog food brand on the market, while other vets insist Science Diet is the best. I also know horse owners who will only feed alfalfa hay, while other horse people think alfalfa is awful for horses.

Personally, I feed half of my group a flockraiser/whole grains blend and the other half of my group mazuri. I have tried to convert my mazuri group to whole grains, but mazuri being made of ground corn and cane molasses, clearly tastes like candy to geese, just like alfalfa to horses and they would rather have candy tasting food.

 

[CelticOaksFarm]

back to our regularly scheduled subject........... will be doing a follow up call to the purina rep today, will let you know if I get through and if he has any new info for us. Christine will get the label info for you today that mentioned yesterday on the kelp. Always worth reading up on and seeing if it will help those feathers. I believe getting back on my previous diet will help a lot, but would like to do as much as possible for them to get their feathers back in good condition.

 

[Miss Lydia]

back to our regularly scheduled subject........... will be doing a follow up call to the purina rep today, will let you know if I get through and if he has any new info for us. Christine will get the label info for you today that mentioned yesterday on the kelp. Always worth reading up on and seeing if it will help those feathers. I believe getting back on my previous diet will help a lot, but would like to do as much as possible for them to get their feathers back in good condition.

Thanks Celtic..

 

[Miss Lydia]

Just got this email from Purina, guess I'll have to apologize All of the ingredients in our feeds are tested for aflatoxins. If they contain any toxins we turn the load away and don’t use it. If you have questions, please let me know.

Pat Herndon
Purina Animal Nutrition, LLC
Phone - 800-227-8941
Office - 636-742-6216
e-Mail - [email protected]
www.purinamills.com


I feel much better.

 

[CelticOaksFarm]

I have an email this morning too Lydia from our local rep. Says about the same thing and he will call me Monday to go over all the percentages and details.

 

[Miss Lydia]

I have an email this morning too Lydia from our local rep. Says about the same thing and he will call me Monday to go over all the percentages and details.

Great C thanks for sharing.

 

[Haunted55]

Just got this email from Purina, guess I'll have to apologize All of the ingredients in our feeds are tested for aflatoxins. If they contain any toxins we turn the load away and don’t use it. If you have questions, please let me know.

Pat Herndon
Purina Animal Nutrition, LLC
Phone - 800-227-8941
Office - 636-742-6216
e-Mail - [email protected]
www.purinamills.com


I feel much better.

This is great Miss L!!! I am glad to see they finally got back to you.

I have an email this morning too Lydia from our local rep. Says about the same thing and he will call me Monday to go over all the percentages and details.

Great Celtic! Talking to someone is a better thing to do if you can. Oh and rather than going back and quoting all of the posts, I too have not been happy with the results from the FR. That is why I switched to the Blue Seal. I can only get 3 different feeds up here. Purina/Tractor Supply from the Penn. plant, Blue Seal from N.H. or the Shur-Gain out of Quebec. That's it, we are so limited here it's pathetic. My BB Turkeys seemed to do alright with it except the females are laying and I've had to add in layer pellets as their eggs were rubbery. Size wise, they are big. As in we had better get these guys done soon. Feather quality? Slim to nil. My heritage turkeys are about the same as for the looks. They're growing but they aren't much to look at. Ducks and geese, are probably the best looking out of the bunch but I wouldn't call their feathers great.

After reading your feeding reccomendations on your site, I have offered sunflower seeds and rolled oats. It would seem to me that from the amounts they eat, they should be fat and sassy. They got the sassy down pat but they aren't fat and I would say I really need to find something to help them get a little more meat on their bones before the deep cold really hits.

Another thing that bothers me, ducks, geese and chickens are all laying. The chickens get the Purina Omega 3 for their feed. This is supposed to be complete and not need calcium added to their diets. For the past 4 months I've had to do just that. The girls stopped eating their eggs as soon as I offered the oyster shell to them. They and the ducks, geese and turkeys are all eating feathers as well. I thought they only did that when their protien level wasn't where it was supposed to be? I have offered the Omega 3 to the ducks, geese and turkeys and the eggs are almost transparent with the ducks and geese and as I said, the turkey eggs are rubber. I am at a loss, I hear you about Blue Seal. I used them in the past and had many troubles with moldy grain and 'short' bags. Even their pellets were more dust then solid. I am into the Blue Seal by 2 weeks now. I'm not seeing harm but not much improvemnet either.