unpasteurized cow's milk. or raw cows milk where can I get it?

[ODS-n-ENS FARM]

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That's the kicker, isn't it? Good hygiene, etc, produces good milk. But in large quantities, how can you know? I certainly doubt the conditions of cows nowadays. But nuke the milk, and all's good. *sigh*

I have honestly never tasted raw milk.

...I'm feeling sarcastic today. It's directed at society, not at anyone in here.

Paturization destroys enzymes, diminishes vitamin content, denatures fragile milk proteins, destroys vitamins C, B12 and B6, kills beneficial bacteria, promotes pathogens and is associated with allergies, increased tooth decay, colic in infants, osteoporosis, arthritis, heart disease and cancer. Inspection of dairy herds for disease is not required for pasteurized milk. Pasteurization was instituted in the 1920s to combat TB, infant diarrhea, undulant fever and other diseases caused by poor animal nutrition and dirty production methods. But times have changed and modern stainless steel tanks, milking machines, refrigerated trucks and inspection methods make pasteurization absolutely unnecessary for public protection. And pasteurization does not always kill the bacteria for Johne’s disease suspected of causing Crohn's disease in humans with which most confinement cows are infected.

 

[lorieMN]

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No added antibiotics & hormones. "The source of most commercial milk is the modern Holstein,* bred to produce huge quantities of milk--three times as much as the old-fashioned cow. She needs special feed and antibiotics to keep her well. Her milk contains high levels of growth hormone from her pituitary gland, even when she is spared the indignities of genetically engineered Bovine Growth Hormone to push her to the udder limits of milk production."?(from A Campaign for Real Milk )

dont believe everything you read..cows are not given antibiotics for no reason, the milk is tested everytime it is picked up and if it doesnt pass guess who doesnt get paid..larger dairies I think are much cleaner and safer then small farmers,larger dairies never have cows standing in mud,the buildings are usually pressure or steam washed down every day,and many now have the cows milk themselves,computer done with a laser off a leg tag the cow goes in to be milked when she wants to..

 

[riderbecky]

Don't worry Hennypenny, I understood your meaning. I'm often cranky myself...

Much to my DH's dismay.

 

[luvmygirlsinAK]

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Never nuke milk. You change the protein in milk into a poisen the body can't handle! In fact, microwaving any type of protein changes the chemical structure of it and makes the protein very bad for your body.

Sorry, I meant nuke as in heat the milk a lot.. Pasteurization. I implying (badly) that milk producers might not have the most healthy cows because they pasteurize the milk to kill everything, bad or good.

....I clearly shouldn't post while cranky.

(I've microwaved milk before!

I'm gonna die?)

Yup!!

Someday, anyway!!!

 

[hennypenny9]

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You're so much more articulate. This is what I meant, even if I didn't know the specifics. It just seems like we toss out the baby with the bathwater, you know?

 

[Blackbird]

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No added antibiotics & hormones. "The source of most commercial milk is the modern Holstein,* bred to produce huge quantities of milk--three times as much as the old-fashioned cow. She needs special feed and antibiotics to keep her well. Her milk contains high levels of growth hormone from her pituitary gland, even when she is spared the indignities of genetically engineered Bovine Growth Hormone to push her to the udder limits of milk production."?(from A Campaign for Real Milk )

dont believe everything you read..cows are not given antibiotics for no reason, the milk is tested everytime it is picked up and if it doesnt pass guess who doesnt get paid..larger dairies I think are much cleaner and safer then small farmers,larger dairies never have cows standing in mud,the buildings are usually pressure or steam washed down every day,and many now have the cows milk themselves,computer done with a laser off a leg tag the cow goes in to be milked when she wants to..

Do you live on a dairy farm? Unless you've been watching a scientific show on the Discovery channel, that is quite uncommon as far as I'm aware. Both my parents lived on a dairy farm, and we current have a small goat dairy. The reason you don't see cows standing outside a barn at many of those places is often because they are not even let outside, they stand in the stantion until they are no longer lactating. As for the high tech gadgets and such, most dairy farmers no not have enough money to even consider purchasing that type of equipment.

 

[PotterWatch]

I live very near several large dairy farms and I guarantee you their cows stand and lay in mud and poop every day. I'm not saying that is the worst thing in the world, after all, they are animals who poop wherever they happen to be, but they certainly are not more sanitary than a small farmer.

 

[ksacres]

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WHAT?? I think not. I'm not a fan of commercially produced, pastuerized milk (we have goats to provide our milk supply), but to say that most cows in confinement are infected with Johne's disease is what I would call "fear mongering". It's highly unlikely that a commercial dairy has cows with Johne's, as Johne's leads to unthriftiness and lowered production (and we've just been told how dairies push cows to the limits of their abilities

), and is always fatal-and someone correct me if I'm wrong here, but-dead cows don't produce milk.

Just the facts, ma'am, just the facts.

 

[breconbcs]

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It's very hard to get your hands on any form of raw milk. It has taken years of getting to know the farmers I work with to get them to give me raw milk when we had puppies (I got goat colustrom for them through one of my sheep farmers). After the legal issues with (I can't remember his name now), the dairy farmer that did get taken to court, farmers are even more worried about even giving you some for your animals, most won't unless they know you very well.

 

[kees]

So, does that mean that I have to go to France again?

Suzy