Same for both. It took a very short time for the turkeys backs to scab over. I had them back in the pen in about 3 weeks. Then I just added blukote to the wound every day till about a week after scab fell off. I most likey was over doing it but I really wanted to give them the best chance I could. I wish I would have posted so all could see the damage after and before photos. But I just freaked and started going through the motions of trying to doctor and clean and heal. The turkeys that had back completly skinned had full scabs at the end of a week. The one with a hole took a little longer.