What is the deal with FG diatomaceous earth? Studies/articles please? Safety?

[Mimi13]

Don't think we've got DE out here; plenty of hardwood trees though.
No worries though, I doubt Al Gore knows where Catalonia is.
So given it's kinda warm here and I don't get the stove running until....hmmmm, when it gets colder, and don't have anywhere to keep the requisite amount of woodash...hard of course...should I be smashing up bits of rock with a sledge hammer and feeding them to the chicken in case they have worms....?


(how exactly do you float shit?)
Fat Bird! Get in that pond!

 

[Helloworld]

Slander is created with a name and a very large community to read it. You have chosen a very, very large community that most likely includes the woman you were making fun of.

Then, you contradict your kindness by intentionally stereotyping newbies with the comment about newbies being easily offended or have their own notions... hello, forums are all about others notions.

I upset u and I am sorry. I am 74 yrs old, noticed you were very bitter and asked. It is poison not passion or you would have helped her not try to hurt her website and mar her character.

Lack of knowledge:

So why not just write her and paste the 2011 extensive research from OP on the reasons behind why it works for some not others, the proper type to buy to avoid common noted problems Or maybe send her the info you have learned yourself to her and ask what she thinks and make her own choices instead of doing it here behind her back?

It is great stuff if you follow the directions.

Greater volume of clay to diamite because it takes very little of the latter and a lot to hurt you. Handfuls must be eaten.
Gloves to avoid dry skin
Masks to avoid bloody noses from dried out sinuses from inhaling a drying agent.
Dust coop while chickens are out if possible. If you buy Red Dirt, so little is needed that you should barely be able to see it on the ground. The chicken’s feet should not be showing much print into dust.

I have show birds that are raised on this and every single fecal count comes back negative before show.

I place 1TBS in between shoulder blades and it sits until chicken shakes or
Mixes it with its dust hole. No bugs or flies bothering them.

The biggest problem with DE is not researching and using it in overkill mode. I go through a 50 lb bag every yr and a half. I use it everywhere.

To each his own, nicely is the rules here, I just don’t want to be a part of a group who uses forums to vent their bitterness no one will listen to at home like many forums allow.
If you could reacquaint me with the site and give me direction to remove your comments from threads I will be glad to do that. The bitterness will kill you. Let it go.

I am not here to fight. I Just cant imagine if you did that to me just because my passion was different from yours. Because I would never do that to you and you are a complete stranger.

 

[roosterhavoc]

I use DE in 50 different pens it helps somewhat. In winter I use woodstove ashes. Neither will totally prevent lice and mites.
I tie flies and skin chickens every now and then. Put a saddle or a cape in a ziplock bag for a few days and tell me how well DE works.

 

[EggWalrus]

Any type of dust in your lungs is not good. Use a dust mask when using any type of dust for preventing or treating mites. I dont think chicken mites like dust in general. I have sprinkled some DE in favorite dust bathing spots for chickens, but if I suspect they have mites I dust with permetherin. I have even heard of people using ashes from a wood stove in dust baths as prevention.

That's what I've always used. Hardwood ashes (oak, pecan, hickory) from the grill. Make sure they are cold, and put about a shovel full in each dirt bath hole, mix it around. It not only keeps the creepy crawlies away, it helps absorb the sweat on the birds skin and keeps them clean.

 

[Mimi13]

Here are a couple of my pullets getting their dust bath on. This is their daily spa date, in amongst the gardenias. My RIR is through dust bathing and posing beautifully in the mountain laurel. They love it and I love watching them and smelling the flowers! Life is short, and miserable at times, and my chickens make me happy! I am thankful for being able to keep chickens.
My Turken, Ms. Biggles, and WL, Chickaletta.


My RIR, Ruby.

 

[EggSighted4Life]

Slander is created with a name and a very large community to read it. You have chosen a very, very large community that most likely includes the woman you were making fun of.

Then, you contradict your kindness by intentionally stereotyping newbies with the comment about newbies being easily offended or have their own notions... hello, forums are all about others notions.

I upset u and I am sorry. I am 74 yrs old, noticed you were very bitter and asked. It is poison not passion or you would have helped her not try to hurt her website and mar her character.

Lack of knowledge:

So why not just write her and paste the 2011 extensive research from OP on the reasons behind why it works for some not others, the proper type to buy to avoid common noted problems Or maybe send her the info you have learned yourself to her and ask what she thinks and make her own choices instead of doing it here behind her back?

It is great stuff if you follow the directions.

Greater volume of clay to diamite because it takes very little of the latter and a lot to hurt you. Handfuls must be eaten.
Gloves to avoid dry skin
Masks to avoid bloody noses from dried out sinuses from inhaling a drying agent.
Dust coop while chickens are out if possible. If you buy Red Dirt, so little is needed that you should barely be able to see it on the ground. The chicken’s feet should not be showing much print into dust.

I have show birds that are raised on this and every single fecal count comes back negative before show.

I place 1TBS in between shoulder blades and it sits until chicken shakes or
Mixes it with its dust hole. No bugs or flies bothering them.

The biggest problem with DE is not researching and using it in overkill mode. I go through a 50 lb bag every yr and a half. I use it everywhere.

To each his own, nicely is the rules here, I just don’t want to be a part of a group who uses forums to vent their bitterness no one will listen to at home like many forums allow.
If you could reacquaint me with the site and give me direction to remove your comments from threads I will be glad to do that. The bitterness will kill you. Let it go.

I am not here to fight. I Just cant imagine if you did that to me just because my passion was different from yours. Because I would never do that to you and you are a complete stranger.

Excuse me, I already apologized.

No, you haven't upset me. See that's just it... things can roll off my back... it called forgiveness, a powerful tool.

You have NO understanding to call me bitter... but I appreciate you sharing your concern. Thank you


Now please... the original post was about DE and asked for article and studies...

You are correct... I SHOULD write her and share the information I have. However, it is there for the whole world... I am not the only one with this knowledge, AND I got my own issues than trying to convince someone to change their ways... so if she does see this I hope she will take it into consideration and respond in a more mature and appropriate manner. I stated I disagreed with her and why... and that I think people with so much viewership should have some accountability.

I'm sorry you feel the need to pick every part of my post apart because it wasn't what YOU would have posted. Please do not attack me any further. If you have links to studies and/or articles as requested in the headline from the original poster... I would love to see/read/review them! I already stated I am here to learn as well.

The bitterness will kill you. Let it go.

Obviously you were offended and I am offering you the same advice... let it go. Quit twisting my words and nit picking.

If I am the worst poster you have came across and you allow that to rob your joy... I am sorry, that is YOUR choice.

Best wishes... maybe you can block me or something and still enjoy BYC...

It changed many people's and chickens and other pets' lives, including mine... and I have spread and shared much more love, support, joy, and accurate information aside from just opinions... with the entire BYC family... even if we don't always agree. One post that wasn't perfect doesn't negate that or change who I am or my intent. Constantly learning and growing and becoming better (not perfect).... EVERY day!

Today I am here to learn about DE on this thread. No bitterness or belittling... just intent on cutting through fact verses fiction.

 

[roosterhavoc]

I’ll help. DE is about as useful as a no crow collar.

 

[Helloworld]

Excuse me, I already apologized.

No, you haven't upset me. See that's just it... things can roll off my back... it called forgiveness, a powerful tool.

You have NO understanding to call me bitter... but I appreciate you sharing your concern. Thank you


Now please... the original post was about DE and asked for article and studies...

You are correct... I SHOULD write her and share the information I have. However, it is there for the whole world... I am not the only one with this knowledge, AND I got my own issues than trying to convince someone to change their ways... so if she does see this I hope she will take it into consideration and respond in a more mature and appropriate manner. I stated I disagreed with her and why... and that I think people with so much viewership should have some accountability.

I'm sorry you feel the need to pick every part of my post apart because it wasn't what YOU would have posted. Please do not attack me any further. If you have links to studies and/or articles as requested in the headline from the original poster... I would love to see/read/review them! I already stated I am here to learn as well.

Obviously you were offended and I am offering you the same advice... let it go. Quit twisting my words and nit picking.

If I am the worst poster you have came across and you allow that to rob your joy... I am sorry, that is YOUR choice.

Best wishes... maybe you can block me or something and still enjoy BYC...

It changed many people's and chickens and other pets' lives, including mine... and I have spread and shared much more love, support, joy, and accurate information aside from just opinions... with the entire BYC family... even if we don't always agree. One post that wasn't perfect doesn't negate that or change who I am or my intent. Constantly learning and growing and becoming better (not perfect).... EVERY day!

Today I am here to learn about DE on this thread. No bitterness or belittling... just intent on cutting through fact verses fiction.

 

[Helloworld]

Lets not go where you would like to take this today. Thank you for the apology but your comments were not directed towards me. Thanks for your two cents.. every little piece can help someone else

 

[Shadrach]

That's what I've always used. Hardwood ashes (oak, pecan, hickory) from the grill. Make sure they are cold, and put about a shovel full in each dirt bath hole, mix it around. It not only keeps the creepy crawlies away, it helps absorb the sweat on the birds skin and keeps them clean.

Actually chickens don't sweat. They don't have sweat glands. Dust bathing may also helps to remove some mites,