Wheaten Crele Project

[MysteryChicken]

The buff orp cross looks like a pullet to me. I don't see any male characteristics at this age, but then its early.

Comb is larger then it used to be, & a bit pinker, also it's legs are longer, & is more competitive.

 

[MysteryChicken]

What is extended wheaten?
Is that a mash up for extended black and wheaten?
Which is what your bird is so that brings up the dead end of your project.
How are you going to maintain breeding for extended black/wheaten birds?
You can't make that breed true.
If you want to mess around with a sorta kinda ok not crele orpington why not just use a partridge orpington and add barring?

Buff Orpington, the buff coloring is considered extended wheaten. E^Wh/E^Wh Co/Co Mh/Mh Db/Db Di/Di.

Extended Black appears as E/E.
Extended Black Wheaten appears as this: E/E^Wh

 

[Frazzemrat1]

Comb is larger then it used to be, & a bit pinker, also it's legs are longer, & is more competitive.

behavior really doesn't matter at this age... And of course the comb is bigger than it was... they still grow, there's just no color to it. But again, its early yet.

 

[MysteryChicken]

behavior really doesn't matter at this age... And of course the comb is bigger than it was... they still grow, there's just no color to it. But again, its early yet.

I'll post again at 6 & a half weeks.
Will be posting growth updates of my project chicks today, if this storm clears up.

 

[The Moonshiner]

Buff Orpington, the buff coloring is considered extended wheaten. E^Wh/E^Wh Co/Co Mh/Mh Db/Db Di/Di.

Extended Black appears as E/E.
Extended Black Wheaten appears as this: E/E^Wh

I'd never heard wheaten called extended wheaten before. I was curious.
The buff is just that it's not wheaten. There's plenty of wheaten and wheaten based birds that aren't buff.
The buff is built on wheaten but that's about it.

You do get that your cockerel and project goal is based on E/E^Wh right?
I'll ask again.
How do you plan to make a breed and breed for that?
It can't be bred true.

 

[MysteryChicken]

I'd never heard wheaten called extended wheaten before. I was curious.
The buff is just that it's not wheaten. There's plenty of wheaten and wheaten based birds that aren't buff.
The buff is built on wheaten but that's about it.

You do get that your cockerel and project goal is based on E/E^Wh right?
I'll ask again.
How do you plan to make a breed and breed for that?
It can't be bred true.

If my my birds were E/E^Wh, they'd be black with gold leakage, or pure black. These birds are E/E^Wh.

These guys I hatched are Buff Orpington/Barred Rock X Australorp.

 

[The Moonshiner]

Well if you say buff is extended wheaten then if your bird isn't E/E^Wh but indeed E^Wh/E^Wh why isn't it all buff?
Your bird does carry extended black that's where all the black comes from.
First step in a project color breeding is knowing what genes your birds are.

 

[MysteryChicken]

Well if you say buff is extended wheaten then if your bird isn't E/E^Wh but indeed E^Wh/E^Wh why isn't it all buff?
Your bird does carry extended black that's where all the black comes from.
First step in a project color breeding is knowing what genes your birds are.

These birds aren't going to be used. They're were test runs on which combo would be best to use.
The black in my line is purely for barring purposes. The best bird combo for my project is Buff Orpington/Barred Rock X Buff Orpington/Australorp.
I do have a chick that's pure buff.

 

[MysteryChicken]

Chick Growth Update: 2 Weeks old.

 

[The Moonshiner]

Your buff chick is E^Wh/E^Wh. Your cockerel isn't.
I wasn't asking why you wanted black in your project. I asked where do you think it came from?
Look at what it looked like at hatch and ask yourself how a wheaten chick would hatch looking like that.
Your Buff Orpington/Barred Rock X Buff Orpington/Australorp are both E/E^Wh when bred they will produce E/E, E/E^Wh, E^Wh/E^Wh.
The look your after will only be on the E/E^Wh chicks and they will continue to produce the same 3 varieties over and over when bred together.
You can't get what you want and have them breed true therefor it will never be more then mixes producing mixes.