Wheaten Crele Project

[MysteryChicken]

Your buff chick is E^Wh/E^Wh. Your cockerel isn't.
I wasn't asking why you wanted black in your project. I asked where do you think it came from?
Look at what it looked like at hatch and ask yourself how a wheaten chick would hatch looking like that.
Your Buff Orpington/Barred Rock X Buff Orpington/Australorp are both E/E^Wh when bred they will produce E/E, E/E^Wh, E^Wh/E^Wh.
The look your after will only be on the E/E^Wh chicks and they will continue to produce the same 3 varieties over and over when bred together.
You can't get what you want and have them breed true therefor it will never be more then mixes producing mixes.

Are you refering to the black ones, or my project cockerel with the buff barred patterning?

 

[MysteryChicken]

This boy? Buff Orpington/Barred Rock X Buff Orpington/Australorp.

Or, this Boy? Buff Orpington/Barred Rock X Australorp.

 

[The Moonshiner]

The top one.
The buff chick you pictured is wheaten. Your cockerel (top pic) as well as both of its parents are/were extended black/wheaten.
Wasn't that cockerel mostly black with some gold in its face when hatched?
No comment on bird in second pic.

 

[MysteryChicken]

The top one.
The buff chick you pictured is wheaten. Your cockerel (top pic) as well as both of its parents are/were extended black/wheaten.
Wasn't that cockerel mostly black with some gold in its face when hatched?
No comment on bird in second pic.

He was black, with white belly, & dark chocolate brown faced. Only the females I've hatched had blonde faces.
This girl

And this girl.

I used to have an image of the boy, but I accidentally deleted it while making space on my phone one day.

 

[The Moonshiner]

Ya that pic is the one I thought he was.
How can you look at all that black and not see extended black?
How did you come up with wheaten/wheaten?

 

[MysteryChicken]

Ya that pic is the one I thought he was.
How can you look at all that black and not see extended black?
How did you come up with wheaten/wheaten?

I never said there wasn't any extended black in their genetics. It's for more black barring that I want with my variety. I didn't come up Wheaten/Wheaten, it's just one of those hardly ever spoken of colors that's normally not talked about ever because how much it resembles E^Wh/E^Wh. It's pretty much the same.
This girl is Extended Wheaten.

 

[The Moonshiner]

I said that he was extended black/wheaten and you said he was wheaten/wheaten.
So now what are you saying? He's wheaten/wheaten but carries some extended black?
Also confused about the wheaten vs extended wheaten.
Are you saying yours is a rare hardly talked about different wheaten then most wheaten breeds?
But not recessive wheaten but a third type of wheaten?
Very confusing.

 

[MysteryChicken]

I said that he was extended black/wheaten and you said he was wheaten/wheaten.
So now what are you saying? He's wheaten/wheaten but carries some extended black?
Also confused about the wheaten vs extended wheaten.
Are you saying yours is a rare hardly talked about different wheaten then most wheaten breeds?
But not recessive wheaten but a third type of wheaten?
Very confusing.

Hard to explain. Would explain further if I could.
My project chicken's color genes consists of: E^Wh/E^Wh Co/co+ Mh/Mh Di/di+ E/E B/b+ Db/Db S/s+ S/S
These genes give me my red, with black barred pattern I wanted in my variety, just like you see here in my boy's saddle feathers.

 

[The Moonshiner]

So he is E^Wh/E^Wh and E/E?
And S/s+ and S/S?
Interesting

 

[MysteryChicken]

So he is E^Wh/E^Wh and E/E?
And S/s+ and S/S?
Interesting

Here's his parents.
Father: Buff Orpington X Barred Rock.

Mother: Buff Orpington X Australorp.