when did parents stop parenting their children??

[lovesduckies]

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lol it would be like knowing what my ducks are doing 24/7 i consider them my children.

 

[rufus]

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This post is a little off topic. However Obama just signed in to law last month a bill for 600 million dollars for the purpose of increasing the border patrol by 1500 officers and 2 observation drones for surveillance. It also provides additional funding for local police departments to enforce laws. The problem there is not illegal immigration. It is thugs from the drug cartels and fringe elements coming across the border. It is a law enforcement problem. The local politicians can't do anything about it because the residents won't abide taxes being raised. So whoever is in the hot seat in DC gets the blame. Happened to Bush Jr too.

Can't blame you for feeling bad about it. As much noise as everyone makes about it. They would make even more noise if someone in DC did something substantial about it. The cost would be as much as the stimulus bill and we all know what fun the pundits had with that. It really puts everyone in the border states in a bad position. In addition to that we buy a huge amount of goods from Mexico and we need to maintain good relations with them. Building a wall similar to the wall that used to separate East and West Germany would not be conducive to good relations. It's a tough nut to crack. I don't see any POTUS doing anything about it.

Good luck, learn Spanish for please don't shoot me.

That works out to about one agent every mile and a half.

And as to the locals not wanting to pay taxes, about 85 per cent of Arizona's land is held by the federal government. Just what are we going to tax? You can't collect income tax from people without jobs.

Rufus

 

[Q9]

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The music and gunfire together made the videos strangely hilarious. Are you saying that they have shot it out with the Mexican Army?

They have. all along the border and into the interior. The hard work has fallen to the army. But they have a limited budget, the narcos don't. The army knows if they arrest these characters, the judiciary will just let them go. They kill them outright when ever possible.

The narcos offer the cops the "plomo o plata" deal. They can take the bribe and continue living or they can take the bullet. They also go for the families of cops and government officials. They kill newspaper people daily. They are now killing the mayors of cities.

They never will find out who burned the kindergarten in Hermosillo. Over fifty little kids were killed there. That is a horrible way to send a very effective message to someone.

Last month there was a shoot out just south of Nogales between bands of narcos. When it was over, about twenty people were dead.

They have de facto control of huge areas of Mexico and the southern part of Arizona. This is coming to your neighborhood soon.

Mexico has a very stringent fire arms control law. You will go to prison forever is you cross the frontier with just one spent shell in your car. Now only criminals have firearms, and they have a lot of them.

Better not annoy them.

Rufus

I doubt it will come anywhere near me - I live in a small NC town. If I were you, though, I'd stock up on combat weapons. Assuming, of course, that you haven't already.

The drug war is horrifying. There are so many drug lords that seriously need to be hanged - dying in combat is far too honorable a death for them.

 

[Dunkopf]

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This post is a little off topic. However Obama just signed in to law last month a bill for 600 million dollars for the purpose of increasing the border patrol by 1500 officers and 2 observation drones for surveillance. It also provides additional funding for local police departments to enforce laws. The problem there is not illegal immigration. It is thugs from the drug cartels and fringe elements coming across the border. It is a law enforcement problem. The local politicians can't do anything about it because the residents won't abide taxes being raised. So whoever is in the hot seat in DC gets the blame. Happened to Bush Jr too.

Can't blame you for feeling bad about it. As much noise as everyone makes about it. They would make even more noise if someone in DC did something substantial about it. The cost would be as much as the stimulus bill and we all know what fun the pundits had with that. It really puts everyone in the border states in a bad position. In addition to that we buy a huge amount of goods from Mexico and we need to maintain good relations with them. Building a wall similar to the wall that used to separate East and West Germany would not be conducive to good relations. It's a tough nut to crack. I don't see any POTUS doing anything about it.

Good luck, learn Spanish for please don't shoot me.

That works out to about one agent every mile and a half.

And as to the locals not wanting to pay taxes, about 85 per cent of Arizona's land is held by the federal government. Just what are we going to tax? You can't collect income tax from people without jobs.

Rufus

Well it's more than the guy before him did. At least it's going in the right direction. I noticed you skipped over what the actual cost of controlling the border would be. I guess if the stimulus is going to bankrupt the country, then protecting the border will have the same effect. Too bad. We can't protect our own country. Just oil interests in foreign countries.

You know 1 agent every mile and a half isn't too bad. As flat and desolate as most of that country is you can see 3/4 of a mile. Seems like they could double that amount and be in pretty good shape.

You guys are really getting off topic.

 

[Pelican49]

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My kids learned early on to never ever admit to boredom. Find something constructive to do, read a book!, or Mom will give you something to do. Same goes for my Grandson now.

 

[Dunkopf]

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My kids learned early on to never ever admit to boredom. Find something constructive to do, read a book!, or Mom will give you something to do. Same goes for my Grandson now.

We do the same thing. It amazes me when any of my kids come up and say in that whining voice. "I'm bored, there's nothing to do". A parents golden opportunity.

 

[BlackBart]

My Brother is a armed guard and he picks up and transports large sums of money.
Quite often young kids, around 12-14 range, run at him and try to take his handgun. The parent is standing there. He gives the parent a lecture and the parent usually tells him SHE is going to call the Cops.

Good Luck with that.

I saw two young children loosening the caps on bleach, ammonia bottles etc. in the grocery store. This was before they manufacturers started putting on safety caps.
I said something to them and their parent told me to leave her kids alone. Little brats. Good luck with them in the future.

 

[arabianequine]

When the kids stopped listening and did what they want anyways.

I think the question should be when did the kids stop listening and respecting their parents and adults.

Real hard to teach the unteachable and when no one will back you up even the police.

 

[thaiturkey]

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Why are so many posters blaming the kids alone? They were brought into the world whether they wanted it or not by the acts of adults or irresponsible adolescents. When they were born they had no knowledge or skill other than the ability to get attention by yelling. Getting attention, even for its own sake, is important to children. What they then learn about their society and how to behave in it then comes from their parents, teacher and other adults around them. It comes also from other children, especially older ones. Many parents sit their children in front of the tv to keep them quiet and occupied and don't give a moments thought about what is on the screen and how it might affect the children. They may even allow their children to see violent movies. The children hear people glorify the killing of others. The see news footage of real killings.

Adults are responsible for bad child behaviour, not children. Granted, at some stage the child becomes an adult and must take responsibility for himself. Granted also that there is a proportion of children who are mentally ill or emotionally unbalanced who, perhaps, should not be on the streets at all. If parents don't direct what their children learn in the first eight years of life and, themselves, teach values, then society is likely to have one more misfit adolescent and adult. Society is full of violence, greed, selfishness and cruelty and will easily seduce a child into its ways.

Despite the sweeping criticisms of children that I have read on this thread, I still hold that most kids are well behaved, polite and a credit to their parents. Children will make mistakes and, as they learn, do stupid things. They also enjoy irresponsible play. Those things are natural, not wicked behaviour.

If we want to improve society for the future, we should start to highlight and reward the good behaviour of children rather than harp on continuously about the bad. Take a look at this:

http://extras.newsoftheworld.co.uk/childrenschamps08/winners09.html

 

[babylady4]

Unfortunately Thai, the majority of behavior that is rewarded IS bad behavior.... by the news media, the Justice system, our Politicians, our schools....... it all depends on who you know.

Personally I would rather hear about the good things people do, but that just does not sell......