Worming a duck with SafeGuard goat wormer

[casportpony]

Two studies for everyone to read:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9269125
Anthelmintic efficacy of ivermectin against Syngamus trachea and Capillaria spp. in pheasant.

Lamka J1, Svobodová V, Slézková J.
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Abstract

Ivermectin (IVM) was perorally administered in dosage schemes 1 x 0.8 mg/kg of body weight (b.w.), 1 x 1.6 mg/kg h.w., 3 x 0.8 mg/kg b.w., and 3 x 1.6 mg/kg b.w. to pheasants infected by Syngamus trachea and Capillaria spp. The samples of faeces were coprologically examined. The clinical state of pheasant was controlled. In all of the used therapeutical schemes the helminthostatic or partially helminthocide effect against adults of worms was reached. The clinical signs of helmithoses were reduced only. IVM in tested doses is not possible to recommend as an effective drug of pheasant syngamosis and capillariosis.


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2816174
Ivermectin as a bird anthelmintic--trials with naturally infected domestic fowl.

Oksanen A, Nikander S.
Abstract

To evaluate the use of ivermectin as a bird anthelmintic, 29 White Leghorn hens naturally infected with Ascaridia spp., Heterakis spp. and Capillaria spp. were treated with 0.2, 2 or 6 mg/kg intramuscularly or 0.2 or 0.8 mg/kg orally. Faecal samples were collected before treatment and at autopsy, 2, 6, or 16 days after treatment, when the intestines were also examined for helminths. None of the treatments gave satisfactory anthelmintic results.

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

Albendazole for gapeworms:
Quote:

Istvan, Varga; Gyorgy, Banhidi; Zoltan, Szell; Csaba, Balint, 1998: Efficacy of albendazole against Syngamus trachea in experimentally infected turkeys.Magyar Allatorvosok Lapja. 120(6): 336-338, E

Efficacy of albendazole of Syngamus trachea tested in groups of 8 to 9 turkeys experimentally infected with 500 larvae each at the age of 8 days. From day 17after infection, the animals were orally dosed with albendazole at 10, 5 or 2 mg/kg b.w. over 3 to 5 successive days. The efficacy was evaluated by daily inspection ofsymptoms, daily faecal egg counts and worm counts at post mortem on day 24after infection. The efficacy in the treated groups amounted to 100%, 100% and 94%, respectively. Remnants of wormpairs - mainly disintegrating males - were found in several animals of medicated groups as against all alive wormpairs in the control turkeys. The study shows high efficacy of albendazole at reduced dose rate against patent gapeworm disease in turkey.

Quote:

Devada K.; Sathianesan V., 1989: Comparative anthelmintic efficacy of mebendazole thiabendazole and albendazole against syngamus trachea infection in chicken. Kerala Journal Of Veterinary Science. 20(1): 59-64

Three anthelmintics viz., mebendazole, (Gulfic) thiabendazole (MSD) and albendazole (SKF) were tried against Syngamus trachea infection in chicken under experimental conditions. Mebendazole dosed at a rate of 40 mg per kg body weightwas found to be most effective with 96.22 per cent reduction of eggs in the droppings, 88.1 per cent of disappearance of worms in the trachea and 95.52 per cent of weight gain of the treated birds. This was closely followed by albendazole administered at 15 mg per kg body weight, which had an efficacy of 95.14 per cent 76.19 per cent and 95.02 per cent in the respective three parameters. Thiabendazole given at a dose rate of 500 mg per kg body weight showed anefficacy of 89.27, 45.24 per cent and 94.18 perc cent based on the egg counts, worm counts and gain in body weight of the medicated chicks respectively. Thiabendazole was found to be the least effective when compared to the other drugs tried.

--Kathy

 

[Miss Lydia]

Thanks K very informative .

 

[casportpony]

Thanks K very informative .

You're welcome! Later I'll break it down to actual amounts of Valbazen per pound.

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

Post about the ineffectiveness of ivermectin:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/867541/important-information-on-ivermec-warning-autopsy-photos

For the past year of owning chickens I have used just ivermec sheep pour on for control of parasites and internal worms. I did research and read in several places that in treats All worms.. I found out the hard way that this isn't true.
I purchased a nice silkie about to months ago to join my flock, she seemed a bit lethargic when I got her home so I wormed her with ivermec and put her in quarantine. Over the next few months she didn't improve. I followed all the recommendations for a sick chicken and gave her some different medicines. She died a few days ago.
Because I was curious as to what she died from I did an autopsy, thinking maybe I would find cancer or a blockage In her gut. Wrong again!
I took the courage up and cut her open and took all the guts out. Definitely not for the weak stomach, it smells (and looks) disgusting! Both caecals were inflamed but other then that I couldn't see much wrong.
I them decided to cut her intestine to look inside to check for damage. Thats when u saw it.. The intestines almost burst open! Absolutely infested with round worms! Still all wriggling around. My poor baby! No wonder she died!
If I just did a simple faecal test at the beginning she might still be here but my ignorance and my belief that ivermec was effective probably killed her!

My lesson, buy wormer that's designed for chickens that specifically states kills all worms..

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

Another one:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/...istomoniasis-case-in-chicken/50#post_13135204

Mm very interesting.
My silkie hen that I got at 12 weeks and lived for 2 months I'm my care was very underweight. Only 400 grams when I got her which is about 500grams under weight. I put ivermec on her when I first got her thinking it would treat all worms.
Her poo was green and runny.
Wings dropped, no appetite, lethargic.
I got photos of organs that had damage.
Her liver was normal

First pictures are of ceacal and ceacal content.


Next pictures are of white lumps found in the lungs and on the inside of carcass.


Last photo is round worms found in intestine.

-Kathy

 

[Miss Lydia]

You're welcome! Later I'll break it down to actual amounts of Valbazen per pound.

-Kathy

Thanks your a gem. and do you still think it's good to switch back and forth between Valbazen and safe Guard? like this year since i started with Valbazen finish it up with Valbazen then next year do Safe Guard or switch every time you worm?

 

[Miss Lydia]

@casportpony Another question can you buy the stuff to do your own testing for worms or would that be more expensive than asking the vet to do it? and how much poop do you need to take and does it have to be separated into each poultry you have like geese would be in one ducks in another/chickens etc?

 

[seminolewind]

Quote: OMG!!! That's how I feel still. I even hatched 10 silkies in March so I could sortof make up for being so stupid. I know it won't but this little silkie hen just broke my heart.

 

[seminolewind]

What's feces being examined coprologically? Sound kind of weird doesn't it?